djbaldwin
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 | | 02/01/2008 7:43 AM |
 Alert | | it's that perfect hair isn't it. You don't like mitt's perfect hair. I'm telling you in a past life he had to be game show host. :-) But hey I like him. But in all seriousness for immigration I actually like some of huckabees statements. I just wish it came down to our 2 candidates. Too bad huck couldn't be vp. | |
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ken
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| | 02/01/2008 8:16 AM |
Alert | | I'd settle for Huck being the VP... preferably under McCain, but I don't think McCain needs Huck as a VP. He'd be better off getting a Fiscal Conservative to shore up that side. Mitt on the other hand has no issue with Fiscal Conservatives, they already like him. Romney likely needs to shore up the Social Conservatives as most of them do not like him. A pick of Huckabee for VP if Romney got the nomination would make a LOT of sense. | |
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ravensnest
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| | 02/01/2008 9:18 PM |
Alert | | The point is not to attack Huck. Actually i kind of like the guy. The problem was its very hard to say your tough on the boarder when you proposed giving breaks to illegals who come to your state for 3 years while citizens of the USA are required to pay more. The bill was defeated by by those who felt the policy actually would attract more illegals to Arkansas and create a safe haven. Support Huck if you believe in him i just have my doubts. | | | |
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ken
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| | 02/02/2008 6:35 AM |
Alert | | I don't think those two positions are in contrast with each other at all, as I myself agree with both of them. I think we should lock the border down hard and penalize employers big time for hiring illegals, but I do have a bit of compassion for a 17 year old kid who has, for all intents and purposes, grown up American and wants to pursue his dreams and go to college. It is by no fault of his that he may have been born in another country and it is by no fault of his own that he resides in this country. You don't punish the children because their parents are deadbeats. Should they get any "special" breaks? The answer is no! Should they be afforded the same opportunity that any other student in the state gets? In this case I would say, absolutely. | |
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djbaldwin
Posts:246
| | 02/02/2008 9:05 AM |
Alert | Posted By ken on 02/01/2008 8:16 AM
I'd settle for Huck being the VP... preferably under McCain, but I don't think McCain needs Huck as a VP. He'd be better off getting a Fiscal Conservative to shore up that side. Mitt on the other hand has no issue with Fiscal Conservatives, they already like him. Romney likely needs to shore up the Social Conservatives as most of them do not like him. A pick of Huckabee for VP if Romney got the nomination would make a LOT of sense.
now you like mccain better than romney too. What the....
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ken
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| | 02/02/2008 9:16 AM |
Alert | | Sorry man... there is just something about Romney I don't trust. But don't worry, I'm not voting for McCain. I'm still voting for Huckabee, even if his chances are low. | |
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djbaldwin
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| | 02/02/2008 9:18 AM |
Alert | | so what if huckabee dropped out. would you vote for McClinton | |
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ken
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| | 02/02/2008 9:19 AM |
Alert | | yes I would. | |
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djbaldwin
Posts:246
| | 02/02/2008 9:22 AM |
Alert | Posted By ken on 02/02/2008 9:19 AM
yes I would.
You do need to be taken to a camp. He might as well be running dem. That's where half his history lies. | |
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ken
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| | 02/02/2008 9:26 AM |
Alert | | I know McCain has his faults and I disagree with him on a number of issues, but the positions he has gone left on I can handle. The positions where Romney has gone left are just not acceptable to me, even if he has changed his mind since. | |
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djbaldwin
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| | 02/02/2008 10:55 AM |
Alert | | your crazy ken CRAZY watch out for those helicopters | |
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ravensnest
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| | 02/02/2008 8:02 PM |
Alert | | Yea Romney wins Maine ! Great since i am not sure we will win too many more. 41% of vote counted when Romney declared winner. Present vote Romney 53% McCain 22% Paul 19% Huckabee 5% Others 1%... | | | |
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djbaldwin
Posts:246
| | 02/04/2008 8:08 AM |
Alert | Posted By ravensnest on 02/02/2008 8:02 PM
Yea Romney wins Maine ! Great since i am not sure we will win too many more. 41% of vote counted when Romney declared winner. Present vote Romney 53% McCain 22% Paul 19% Huckabee 5% Others 1%...
Woohoo, but we will win a few more on super tuesday. We will win quite a few districts in california. We will win most of the midwest. There are 1100 delegates up for grabs after super tueday too. So were in good shape regardless of what the media says. All you romney supporters just need to get out and vote on tuesday. I'll be there doing exit polls. | |
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hastings1066
Posts:1011
| | 02/04/2008 12:38 PM |
Alert | Posted By ken on 02/02/2008 9:26 AM
I know McCain has his faults and I disagree with him on a number of issues, but the positions he has gone left on I can handle. The positions where Romney has gone left are just not acceptable to me, even if he has changed his mind since.
In a democracy, to be successful (to win) a politician must seem to support positions that appeal to a majority of the voters. A few lucky ones, Reagan comes to mind, are in the fortunate position in which their views are shared by a majority of the voters at the time they are running for office. Others are forced to adapt and revise their positions in order to be more in line with the majority. Supporters call this growth, opponents call it waffling.
Those politicians who stick to views not supported by the majority at that time and place face the predictable result. Goldwater on the right and McGovern on the left are good examples. I remember a reporter on TV saying, with surprise, “It looks like Goldwater is running as Goldwater”. He did and as a result, he lost. So we should not be surprised that politicians running for office change their positions to fit the political winds. As any sailor will tell you, sailing against the wind is an exercise in futility.
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missPolitick
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| | 02/04/2008 2:01 PM |
Alert | Ken, are you saying that you can handle McCain being more left on immigration than Romney leaning a little left on abortion in the past? How can abortion even be relevant? It doesn't effect us the way immigration does. It's a moral belief/choice! I know people are passionate about abortion, but to me it doesn't even begin to matter when I choose a president.
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hastings1066
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| | 02/04/2008 2:08 PM |
Alert | Posted By missPolitick on 02/04/2008 2:01 PM
Ken, are you saying that you can handle McCain being more left on immigration than Romney leaning a little left on abortion in the past? How can abortion even be relevant? It doesn't effect us the way immigration does. It's a moral belief/choice! I know people are passionate about abortion, but to me it doesn't even begin to matter when I choose a president.
BTW, NEWT GINGRICH FOR VP!!
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