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jhallUser is Offline

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11/26/2007 7:25 AM Alert 
That's crazy! I didn't hear about that, do you have a link?

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
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12/02/2007 9:18 AM Alert 
If every household were required to own a gun violent crime might drop. Think about it...

In Kennesaw Georgia this is the law. Crime has dropped. Check it out.
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/kennesaw.html

Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage
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12/02/2007 10:18 AM Alert 
Posted By jhall on 11/26/2007 7:25 AM
That's crazy! I didn't hear about that, do you have a link?




Were the authorities wrong? U.S. District Court Judge Jay Zainey, Eastern District of Louisiana, said they were, in a decision he issued Sept. 23 in response to a National Rifle Association-filed motion. Read more:

http://www.tribune-democrat.com/editorials/local_story_301105142.html
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12/02/2007 11:12 AM Alert 
During that it was a democratic state.... who knows, maybe it was a ploy from them to get guns away. The story doesn't state that it was an organized removal of all guns... house to house. Maybe we aren't hearing both sides of that story with the old woman and the pistol... Either way... it's still border line...

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
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12/02/2007 8:09 PM Alert 
Posted By missPolitick on 12/02/2007 9:18 AM
If every household were required to own a gun violent crime might drop. Think about it...

In Kennesaw Georgia this is the law. Crime has dropped. Check it out.
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/kennesaw.html




What are you smoking?

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
jhallUser is Offline

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12/02/2007 11:31 PM Alert 
It's called sober drummerboy try it some time... Everything is so clear... you can think straight... colors are so vibrant, sounds so crisp.... With sober.... common sense comes easily....

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
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12/03/2007 7:03 AM Alert 
Posted By missPolitick on 12/02/2007 9:18 AM
If every household were required to own a gun violent crime might drop. Think about it...

In Kennesaw Georgia this is the law. Crime has dropped. Check it out.
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/kennesaw.html




I support the right to bear arms but a requirement to bear arms is irresponsible. There are too many idiots out there who shouldn't be near a firearm less on be required to have one. Imagine some anger management school candidate who gets into an argument with his wife and has a .357 sitting in the drawer. Not that he couldn't anyway, but requiring it is irresponsible.

Law enforcement is one of the real mandates of government. Subbing it out to citizens is like requiring each homeowner to have a road grader and a snow plow.

Stupid should hurt!

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12/03/2007 6:09 PM Alert 
drummer72,imagine this scenario:
Two houses of senior citizens side by side.
Punks with knives and bats kick in both doors.
Police blocked by the train.
In one house the people beg for mercy.
In the other, a 9mm is pointed at the punks by someone who knows how to use it.
Who do you think will be in better shape when the police show up?
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12/03/2007 7:50 PM Alert 
First off, we should have never gotten to this point in the first place with guns. There should have been regulations when guns started being mass produced. So, I guess it's futile to ban them now.
That's like banning porn.

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
JasonUser is Offline

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12/04/2007 11:46 AM Alert 
For that to happen, someone would have had to have been the world gun police. Again, it's just not possible to stop this, you only harm the victims by outlawing guns.

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12/04/2007 10:54 PM Alert 
UGH!

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geewizUser is Offline

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12/05/2007 7:17 AM Alert 
drummer if you think that guns suck your useing them all wrong. Guns expel ( blow) there projectiles out of the barrel not suck them in.

Be strong ARMY STRONG America's backbone.
drummer72User is Offline

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12/05/2007 4:53 PM Alert 
Oh yeah, it never ends.....


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_on_re_us/mall_shooting

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12/05/2007 4:55 PM Alert 
Posted By geewiz on 12/05/2007 7:17 AM
drummer if you think that guns suck your useing them all wrong. Guns expel ( blow) there projectiles out of the barrel not suck them in.





I bet you thought english class sucked?

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
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12/05/2007 7:19 PM Alert 
Posted By drummer72 on 12/05/2007 4:55 PM
Posted By geewiz on 12/05/2007 7:17 AM
drummer if you think that guns suck your useing them all wrong. Guns expel ( blow) there projectiles out of the barrel not suck them in.





I bet you thought english class sucked?



You bet i did. I skipped out of it as much as I could. Even though I aint that proper in english you still got my point so it must be good enough. If you didn't get my point your worst off than me.

Be strong ARMY STRONG America's backbone.
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12/05/2007 9:11 PM Alert 
Posted By geewiz on 12/05/2007 7:19 PM
Posted By drummer72 on 12/05/2007 4:55 PM
Posted By geewiz on 12/05/2007 7:17 AM
drummer if you think that guns suck your useing them all wrong. Guns expel ( blow) there projectiles out of the barrel not suck them in.





I bet you thought english class sucked?



You bet i did. I skipped out of it as much as I could. Even though I aint that proper in english you still got my point so it must be good enough. If you didn't get my point your worst off than me.




Yes, I'm worst off. Sorry.

Nothing should be "good enough". Either do it your best or don't do it at all.

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
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12/07/2007 8:16 AM Alert 
From City of Maricopa meeting in May of 2007...

QUESTION: What about the use of firearms within City limits?


RESPONSE: The City of Maricopa is currently one of few municipalities that allows hunting within city limits. You may discharge a firearm within city limits if you are within a designated hunting area. The current City Council still intends to preserve these regulations and has been vocal in its support of the use of firearms and maintaining rights as such and may decide to explore the possibility of altering the City Code to allow for use of firearms within other areas within city limits.

Carroll O Connor, aka Archie Bunker, a great American!
hastings1066User is Offline

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12/07/2007 9:25 AM Alert 
How about building a public firing range like the one in Casa Grande. Very little cost to build and almost no operating expense.
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12/07/2007 12:32 PM Alert 
Posted By missPolitick on 12/02/2007 9:18 AM
If every household were required to own a gun violent crime might drop. Think about it...

In Kennesaw Georgia this is the law. Crime has dropped. Check it out.
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/kennesaw.html




I don't know that this one (so-called) success story can be used to determine if this type of rule would increase or decrease crime. Kennesaw, GA has population of appox. 20,000 residents and is made up almost entirely of upper-middle class citizens. Only 3% of families live below the poverty line. It hardly represents the demographics of towns and cities that are plagued with violent crime. Also this law was passed symbolically to protest the gun ban in a city in Illinois. The law has never been enforced nor has anybody been charged for not owning a gun. There also is no penalty assigned to the law.

If you were to pass (and enforce) a similar law in Camden, NJ, Gary, IN, or Flint, MI, you could better gauge its effect on violent crime. There is no data in the case above that shows any causation between gun ownership and lower violent crime rates, however there is data from the World Health Organization that shows that countries that have liberal gun laws have higher rates of homicide. While the U.S. is not the highest in this group, we have 3-5 times as many homicides per 100,000 residents as Western European nations and Canada.
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12/07/2007 3:04 PM Alert 
Posted By sdmphx777 on 12/07/2007 12:32 PM
While the U.S. is not the highest in this group, we have 3-5 times as many homicides per 100,000 residents as Western European nations and Canada.




Our rate of personal crime (robbery, assault, mugging, etc) is much lower than that of Great Britain though...just to throw a wrench into the mix.
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