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IrishCream
Posts:277


 | | 02/22/2008 8:44 AM |
Alert | Hey LampLite, I don't know if becoming aggressive is the best way to help people open their eyes, ya know?! But, then again that would be under the assumption that you really want to help them open their eyes lol. Maybe you have given up hope already, I can totally see how that would be possible, really I can.
I hope that this thread and a few others like it, will help someone want to take a look at the things we are discussing. Maybe we sound like conspiracy nuts and that's ok. All I really want is to spread the word, but there are for more indoctrinated people than there are those who are open to the truth.
I also agree that I will believe Alex Jones before many of these other mainstream media personalities. He is so passionate and he stands by every thing that he says, the man has never back-peddeled or flip-flopped on a single issue that I am aware of. To me, that is credibility. Sometimes even the best of us will get the facts wrong, but if you have to back-peddle and so on with almost every story, or if your facts don't match up with your partners in the media, there may be an issue.
There may never come a day when everyone will realize what is really going on. This will mostly be due to the fact that it is all happening slowly and steadily. We adopt these changes into our lives and begin thinking that the changes are needed, they are necessary in order for us to be "protected" and cared for. Because you know, we are children who need to have our noses wiped and our hands smacked when we get out of line. "Look at so-n-so, we better not act like them or we'll end up like them." Ludicrious, ridiculous. Please wake up and see what it is that the government is doing to us, to our nation and to our children's future.
My prediction (just mine lol) Hillary will win the presidency (because the Bilderberg Group said so) and that will continue they dynasty that Sinbad had unknowingly brought to our local attention with his "20 years...4 more" thread. People are picking up on these things and they don't even need the alternative media.
Jason, how's that for "readable"? lol | | “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
— Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645


 | | 02/22/2008 9:58 AM |
Alert | | I wonder what the zeitgeist will be in ten years after a new regime has had time to corrupt the White House. | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463


 | | 02/22/2008 10:05 AM |
Alert | | Let's worry about surviving this pole shift first, then we can worry about my future regime. | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378


 | | 02/22/2008 10:27 AM |
Alert | I also agree that I will believe Alex Jones before many of these other mainstream media personalities. He is so passionate and he stands by every thing that he says, the man has never back-peddeled or flip-flopped on a single issue that I am aware of. To me, that is credibility. Sometimes even the best of us will get the facts wrong, but if you have to back-peddle and so on with almost every story, or if your facts don't match up with your partners in the media, there may be an issue.
So blindly repeating fallacious "explanations" for things is credibility?  | | Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:1011


 | | 02/22/2008 10:27 AM |
Alert | To simply believe in someone because "He is passionate and stands by everything he says, the man never back-peddled or flip flopped on a single issue ...." is illogical. One can be passionate and consistent and wrong. I am reminded of a very passionate and consistent politician in Germany in the 1930s and 40s. Hitler convinced an entire country to march off a cliff by his passion and certitude. There is danger in a tendency that we all have, to accept ,without investigation, those things we see on the net that agree with our world view, and to discount those that do not. | | | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463


 | | 02/22/2008 10:31 AM |
Alert | | Interesting, like Bush made the people believe we were in Iraq to free the people. | | | |
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| | IrishCream
Posts:277


 | | 02/22/2008 10:47 AM |
Alert | "There is danger in a tendency that we all have, to accept ,without investigation, those things we see on the net that agree with our world view, and to discount those that do not. "
I see your statement and raise you one... There is also danger in a tendency to accept, without investigation, those things we see on our evening news and read in our morning papers.
I assure you hastings, I do my research, thoroughly. So thoroughly in fact, that my husband gets very upset because I spend do much time doing that hehe. I am well informed, maybe not about everything, but I do my best to get information from many places and then weigh all of that out for myself. A lot of the time my research leads me back to major mainstrem media stories that will, in essence cooberate with my independent research. Of course "names and dates have been changed in order to protect identities" lol.
A little (or a lot) of independent research using both mainstream and alternative sources will yeild the truth. There's his story, there's her story and somewhere in the middle lies the truth!
| | “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
— Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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| | IrishCream
Posts:277


 | | 02/22/2008 10:50 AM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 02/22/2008 10:27 AM
I also agree that I will believe Alex Jones before many of these other mainstream media personalities. He is so passionate and he stands by every thing that he says, the man has never back-peddeled or flip-flopped on a single issue that I am aware of. To me, that is credibility. Sometimes even the best of us will get the facts wrong, but if you have to back-peddle and so on with almost every story, or if your facts don't match up with your partners in the media, there may be an issue.
So blindly repeating fallacious "explanations" for things is credibility?  Well, it is a lot more credible than repeating and blindly believing "explainations" by known liars and unconvicted criminals in the government. | | “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
— Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:1011


 | | 02/22/2008 11:00 AM |
Alert | IrishCream - I agree with you; however, some on this forum , before subscribing to some conspiracy theory as their first choice to explain something, need to remember Occam's Razor. | | | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378


 | | 02/22/2008 11:48 AM |
Alert | | Not only that, but what 'investigating' are you doing? You read something on Fox or CNN and then go 'investigate' on Alex Jones' website? He is known to cling to things that are not only proven to be false, but that he should have known so to begin with. Why is that more believable or credible? That doesn't make sense. | | Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463


 | | 02/22/2008 1:06 PM |
Alert | | Yup say that at the end of the year. You forget Bush still has 10 months to go. | | | |
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| | IrishCream
Posts:277


 | | 02/22/2008 2:11 PM |
Alert | Hastings, thank you for that statement. We can agree to disagree lol. I enjoy a meeting of the minds much more than I enjoy a meeting of the "tempers", ya know? There are many people who choose both routes to their personal truth. I take acception to that because, as I've stated, everyone has a responsibility to themselves to be informed on the issues. The truth they choose for themselves after they are satisfied with their findings is their truth and I highly respect that, even if it isn't my truth lol.
Jason, I responded to you privately because I truely feel that it was the only appropriate way to do so. | | “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
— Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645


 | | 02/26/2008 10:03 AM |
Alert | | Would anyone say it is plausible that American representatives attend the annual Bilderberg meeting with the strategy of 'keeping our enemies closer' ? Wouldn't that be a good way to stay in the loop with what other countries have in mind as far as their future plans go? Wouldn't it be ok to pretend to be on the same page as the other representatives in order to get more information? Just a theory. | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463


 | | 02/26/2008 10:20 AM |
Alert | | No it's very doubtfull, they are in it for power and money nothing more | | | |
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| | IrishCream
Posts:277


 | | 02/26/2008 12:22 PM |
Alert | Power corrupts! Absolute power corrupts...absolutely!
There is no middle ground when it comes to the Bilderberg meetings, there is no "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"! This is an unfortunate reality and the sooner we all open our eyes to this, the sooner we will break free of your overall collective "sheeple" global citizenship.
The root of all evil is money, not because money is evil, but those who desire it at any cost are! | | “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
— Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446


 | | 02/26/2008 12:30 PM |
Alert | Can I have some money?  | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645


 | | 02/26/2008 4:45 PM |
Alert | Posted By IrishCream on 02/26/2008 12:22 PM
There is no middle ground when it comes to the Bilderberg meetings, there is no "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"! How do you know this? | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463


 | | 02/26/2008 5:10 PM |
Alert | | Look at their track record, the collapse of Wall Street, the false flags they have thrown to make war to fatten the wallets of the Federal Reserve owners, these guys are scum much like Judges and Politicians, know your history and wake up. | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645


 | | 02/26/2008 5:21 PM |
Alert | | You can draw that conclusion if that's the way you are leaning. | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463


 | | 02/26/2008 5:33 PM |
Alert | | So international bankers are a good thing as well as the Federal Reserve that controls inflation? Come on girl. | | | |
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