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drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 2:52 PM Alert 

Keep playing that USSR card,dude.

Sorry about your loser,nazi loving candidate.
I bet that's the only people behind that showed up(avatar). And they probably were there to see Romney.


"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
RichTigUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:01 PM Alert 

Maybe its you that should get out of Maricopa.  I think you'd be much happier with your buddy Chavez in Venezuela.

 

I am convinced that the path to a new, better and possible world is not capitalism, the path is socialism.
Hugo Chavez

love@hmUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:04 PM Alert 
You know, drummer and I don't agree on much when it comes to politics, but even the best business men know if you want to have a good productivity you have to take care of your employees, and gov't is nothing more than a gigantic corporation. We simply have to find the balance in our benefit package, where we are now we likely give too much, but if we cut everyone off we have no productivity, which hurts everyone, not just those who suddenly lose the benefits the rest of us don't have.

FTR: I am against national healthcare, minimum wage (although to get away from it in a healthy way, we would have to wean off) and amnesty.
RichTigUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:09 PM Alert 

FTR:  I am for universal health care.  Something needs to be done so that poor people don't abuse and overcrowd our ERs with their petty flu/fevers.

drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:10 PM Alert 
Posted By RichTig on 02/13/2008 3:01 PM

Maybe its you that should get out of Maricopa.  I think you'd be much happier with your buddy Chavez in Venezuela.

 

I am convinced that the path to a new, better and possible world is not capitalism, the path is socialism.
Hugo Chavez

 

 

Nice quote-thanks!


"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:12 PM Alert 
Posted By RichTig on 02/13/2008 3:09 PM

FTR:  I am for universal health care.  Something needs to be done so that poor people don't abuse and overcrowd our ERs with their petty flu/fevers.

 

 

Clearly, you have got to be kidding! I never thought people with your mentality existed.

 


"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
RichTigUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:13 PM Alert 

We do and we don't believe in your hippy, socialist utopia dream.

drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 4:25 PM Alert 
I don't smoke weed or wear patchouli.

So, I'm just an average dude looking for a better, life for us all.

When you say "we" are you meaning everyone else in this forum?
If so, then I'm screwed.

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
love@hmUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 5:12 PM Alert 

NATIONAL healthcare and UNIVERSAL healthcare are different things.

I would support a universal healthcare like Romney suggested any day. Put the gov't incharge and you are looking at paying MORE money for people who don't need to go to the DR going. Read up on the stats - they are there. What happens is people suddenly get all the well visits and such, they don't get any healthier, and the run to the ER, because why not go there - we don't pay anything. . . On top of that the Gov't runs the paperwork which costs money, and they will want to keep track of everything. The gov't also determines what can be done when which means less-effective care, AND the waits become not so great. How many Americans do you know that run to Canada for medical treatment?

The answer is not to give healthcare to everyone, it is to make people become responsible. You want them to get up and get a job, yet you don't want the same people to be responsible for their own health - instead you want ME to. . . NO WAY - there are simply no real benefits to socialized medicine (gov't run) except higher taxes, and people saying, "I feel better because that person over there that can't afford to see the DR can finally have their hang-nail removed."

Now, tell a person they have to 1. Take the responsiblity to get on welfare and have coverage, 2. buy a catastrophic policy so at least when they walk away they only walk away from $5,000 of the bill instead of $50,000 3. Allow providers to continue to fight over their customers .

Watch, the cost for everyone goes down because you no longer have to spend quite as much for those numskulls that don't pay their bills and you still have a say in the coverage and care that you get. . .

JasonUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 8:14 PM Alert 
Posted By RichTig on 02/12/2008 5:47 PM

How about this.....

Look to churches and charities for your handouts.  So, the bleeding hearts, that want to help, can help.  And those of us who would rather burn money in a barrel than give it to someone on welfare, can be happy NOT helping.

 

 

Effective immediately I would like to terminate the following services available to you:

  • 911
  • Police
  • Fire
  • Ambulance
  • Public education
Posted By RichTig on 02/12/2008 6:26 PM

Then they should get a job.  The Republic is full of jobs as is Monster.com.

When there are no more jobs to be had, then they get assistance.

 

You're living in an economic dream world. Either you don't work, or you don't understand the concept of pay scales. No one is going to hire an experienced engineer with no qualifications for a 30K/year job in a completely different field.

Furthermore, unemployment is unemployment insurance, not welfare.


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JasonUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 8:21 PM Alert 
Posted By HiggsBoson on 02/12/2008 12:49 PM

Call it an "Earned Income Ticket Credit."

Interesting you mentioned that. George H. W. Bush raised it. So did George W. Bush. So this is a uniquely Democrat thing?
Persons "earn" it by having few skills, poor work habits, and low ambition, thus keeping them at entry-level wages.
Proof please.

P.S. I didnt write this, for you crybabies that keep track of stuff like that.
So can we assume that you don't work very hard, because you ripped-off someone else's work?

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drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 11:37 PM Alert 
love@hm,
People don't run to Canada and get healthcare,because they can't.

I do bellieve this is when we no longer agree....

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
RichTigUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 6:02 AM Alert 
Posted By Jason on 02/13/2008 8:14 PM
Posted By RichTig on 02/12/2008 5:47 PM

How about this.....

Look to churches and charities for your handouts.  So, the bleeding hearts, that want to help, can help.  And those of us who would rather burn money in a barrel than give it to someone on welfare, can be happy NOT helping.

 

 

Effective immediately I would like to terminate the following services available to you:

  • 911
  • Police
  • Fire
  • Ambulance
  • Public education
Posted By RichTig on 02/12/2008 6:26 PM

Then they should get a job.  The Republic is full of jobs as is Monster.com.

When there are no more jobs to be had, then they get assistance.

 

You're living in an economic dream world. Either you don't work, or you don't understand the concept of pay scales. No one is going to hire an experienced engineer with no qualifications for a 30K/year job in a completely different field.

Furthermore, unemployment is unemployment insurance, not welfare.

 

 

1.  I pay plenty of taxes, so I get all the services you mentioned.  Is welfare taxed?  Cut them people off, if you like.

 

2.  I understand unemploment insurance and its a great benefit.  I have never used it, but I know people who have.

love@hmUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 8:29 AM Alert 
Drummer, I think we basically agree on the need for welfare reform and a continuing welfare system. . . that's about it.

It is true we can't run to Canada, but there are Canadians that run into the US in order to have their procedures. They PAY here, when they could have it 'free' (it's never really free) there. Do you see a problem with this? Why on EARTH would they come here and PAY when they could have it 'free' there? That is an indication of something being wrong. Because let's face it, if any one of us decided we wanted a certain test today, and we had the money to pay for it - we would have that test NOW! I want that FREEDOM. Socialized medicine (which is what a national healthcare plan is) does not provide me with this freedom. In Canada it is illegal for people to PAY to have what they want, they just have to continue to go through the process and pray they can get what they want, or come up with enough money and cross into the US and pay for it here. . .

Yes, I see a problem with socialized medicine. slow paperwork, long waits, higher taxes, and the possibility of sub-standard care. I support a universal healthcare like Romney's, but not a national healthcare - I don't want the gov't incharge of my health - and I don't want to pay for the people who go to the DR because their nose is stuffy.
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02/14/2008 9:00 AM Alert 
Posted By RichTig on 02/13/2008 2:47 PM

Let's all sing combaya and join the Socialist Republic of Drummer.  Its sad that people still believe that wealth redistribution is the answer to all our problems.

How you must have cried when the workers paradise of the Soviet Union collapsed.

Forgive my parents.  How stupid of them to instill a work ethic in us.  They should have taught us that it is better to collect welfare than to work.  All this welfare is good stuff......its starting to make sense......are you on aid, Drummer?

This topic hit a little close to home for you?

 

 

Its sad that people like drummer believe lazy/worthless "people" deserve free money usually when people believe this they are the ones that are abusing it...we should all be ashamed of ourselves for waking up every morning driving through crappy traffic and working a long day.  I mean how could our parents instill something like work ethic in ushaha...I am so glad there are not to many lazy people like drummer around that want something for nothing... pisses me off especially my lazy neighbor with 5 kids no job and brags about her free money to here other worthless friend

love@hmUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 9:12 AM Alert 
There are lazy, crazed, difficult, dishonest, hippy, socialistic, criminal people, but there are no WORTHLESS people.
RichTigUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 10:13 AM Alert 

Serial killers.

JasonUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 10:49 AM Alert 
1.  I pay plenty of taxes, so I get all the services you mentioned.  Is welfare taxed?  Cut them people off, if you like.
My point was that all those services are ones that everyone is forced to pay into (sounds like the argument people make against welfare) so that one day if someone screws up (sounding even more like the welfare argument) or makes a mistake, they can have the service. I don't understand how someone could be completely against welfare and still want fire, police and education services.

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RichTigUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 10:57 AM Alert 

You don't understand why I would like fire, police and education services and not want to support lazy, babymaking, parasitic welfare people?

Yes, our taxes are used for essential services like fire, police and education.  How is welfare essential to anyone but those collecting it, over and over again and generation after generation?

JasonUser is Offline

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02/14/2008 11:33 AM Alert 
Posted By RichTig on 02/14/2008 10:57 AM
not want to support lazy, babymaking, parasitic welfare people?

 

Appeal to emotion. Provide proof please.

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