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drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 3:30 PM Alert 
McCain and my foot? Perfect ticket...

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02/13/2008 3:32 PM Alert 

The Republicans are salivating at the VP spot.  McCain is going to die in office for sure.  He'll be 72yo at the time fo the Inauguration.

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02/13/2008 3:42 PM Alert 
I'd be more than willing to take a tax increase, if it pays for a nice retirement home/coffin for McCain.

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02/13/2008 4:00 PM Alert 
Posted By RichTig on 02/13/2008 3:24 PM

McCain and Condoleeza Rice

She brings foreign policy experience and the blacks and women.

The Republicans see your white woman and black man and raise you with a black woman.

Touche

 

Pretty impressive RichyRich. I can't believe I didn't come up with that one before you. I could support that ticket.

 


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drummer72User is Offline

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02/13/2008 4:10 PM Alert 

Women aren't respected as much in the muslim world.


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RichTigUser is Offline

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02/13/2008 4:12 PM Alert 

Condoleeza Rice is for McCain's VP, not Obama's.  We all know that Obama is a 5th column Muslim bent on destroying the USA.  They said so, on Fox News.

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02/13/2008 4:13 PM Alert 

I'm sure Muslim women aren't even allowed by their husbands to vote so we'll only lose half of the Muslim population's vote there, and then another half will be too busy praying all day to make it to the voting booth so I'm not really worried about losing what we never had in votes.


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02/13/2008 4:17 PM Alert 

More like all of it. Muslim men wouldn't want a woman president telling/suggesting them on what to do. Muslim women don't vote. We'd be more of a threat to Islam, if we had a woman in charge.


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02/13/2008 4:31 PM Alert 

I would rather open a vein than vote for MacCaine


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02/13/2008 11:53 PM Alert 
Posted By drummer72 on 02/13/2008 4:10 PM

Women aren't respected as much in the muslim world.

 

The moment we start catering to the insane and often backwards desires of the Muslim world is the moment we've got nothing left to save in this country of ours.

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02/14/2008 11:36 AM Alert 

I am afraid that McCain will drag us into Iran. I want us out of the ME. I want our tax money to go towards healing our country. For the first time ever, I will be voting Democrat this year.


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02/14/2008 11:37 AM Alert 
I want us out of the UN...........

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02/14/2008 4:16 PM Alert 
I wanna chase terrorists till the end of time. I just wish we could televise their executions.

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02/14/2008 8:51 PM Alert 
I want us to invest in a military that will destroy all that disagree and question authority.

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02/14/2008 10:01 PM Alert 
Sounds good to me!

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02/14/2008 11:47 PM Alert 
Posted By TheBoymaker on 02/14/2008 11:36 AM

I am afraid that McCain will drag us into Iran. I want us out of the ME. I want our tax money to go towards healing our country. For the first time ever, I will be voting Democrat this year.

By voting Democrat, you'll ensure that your taxes will be hiked for all sorts of reasons. 

I'm no fan, but I don't think McCain will get us into Iran for two reasons.  First of all, he will be dealing with a hostile Congress.  They've only grudgingly offered any budgetary support for Iraq and would be completely willing to take up any offensive strategy in Iran or elsewhere in the MidEast for the forseeable future.  Secondly, McCain seems to actually understand what Iran is doing.  Economists and analysts have quietly noticed for years now that the more saber-rattling Iran and Russia have been doing, the more their incomes have been padded to.  Both of them are major players in the oil and gas market, and by promoting instability, they can scare up the price of their only export.  McCain sees this, having mentioned it in at least one speech last year.  He will talk the talk because he has to, but it appears that he knows full well that Iran's game is the same sort of brinksmanship that Iraq played to perfection throughout the 1990s, and that veteran seems disinclined to commit boots on the ground in an offensive fashion.

I have my problems with Senator McCain, and they'd be hard to swallow.  But I'd be compelled to vote for him over either of the socialists he'd be running against.

 

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02/15/2008 7:23 AM Alert 

I am no fan of getting into Iraq in the first place. Frankly, i think we never should have. However, to walk out now or somehow think we can just ignore the middle east is a big mistake. I suggest you better think what Iran will do when they realize the Americans just want to surrender and run away. The real threat to the middle east was never Iraq or Saddam but Iran.

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02/15/2008 8:18 AM Alert 
I don't want to vote for McCain either but it's better than voting for a socialist government. At least we can hope for a great vice president. By the way there are many women leaders in Iran. In fact the leader of one of their secret police or Mujahideen is a female and has been for over 50 years. But the fact is we need a presence in the middle east. While I don't agree with about 60% of what mcCain does I do think he is a way better option than billary or hussein.

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02/15/2008 8:35 AM Alert 
McCain WILL take us into Iran, why can't you see this? I really want everyone to recognize that real change will ONLY happen when we get out from under the Clinton/Bush/Clinton regime. It really is a regime. Barack may not have a leg to stand on as far as experience, but if the only options are experience under the Clinton/Bush admins, then count me out. Maybe Obama wants to further the Democratic agenda of globalized health care and economic security "hand outs for stabalization", we would only have to deal with it for 4 more years. This would be far better than having a 100 year war or a continuation of the economy in its current state.

It is a cryin' shame that this is what we are basing our votes on. If we feel this way, how does the rest of the country really feel? We are a good barameter for the rest of the nation and this is just sad! Maricopa, as a whole, in the Republican primaries voted for Romeny and now here we sit debating the McCain ticket! McCain is going to have Romney as his VP running mate and that should really scare people. This means that Romney is willing to forego his stance on the issues just to get a seat in the White House. Romney will sell out and run with McCain, keep watching, it's going to happen.

I refuse to side with Republican or Democratic parties, I wait to see what each are offering and as it stands, I really want nothing to do with either party, However, I will not waste a vote, so, at this point, my vote lies with Obama. Just think about it, this election is not about "party lines", it is about what you truly think will take this country in the right direction. Taking the country in the right direction is not being offered on either side in any way.

Tread lightly my fellow Americans, tread lightly!

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”


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02/15/2008 11:20 AM Alert 

Posted By IrishCream on 02/15/2008 8:35 AM

Maricopa, as a whole, in the Republican primaries voted for Romeny and now here we sit debating the McCain ticket! McCain is going to have Romney as his VP running mate and that should really scare people. This means that Romney is willing to forego his stance on the issues just to get a seat in the White House. Romney will sell out and run with McCain, keep watching, it's going to happen.



You're the second person who thinks it likely that McCain will choose Romney as a running-mate. This won't happen for a number of reasons:

1. Anti-Mormon sentiment is still deep-seated in the country, as the results ultimately showed. A Mormon running-mate is a risky gamble, and McCain has no room for error.

2. McCain and Romney can't stand each other. Romney's endorsement of McCain two days ago had to happen politically, but did you watch the announcement? They are uncomfortable with each other and really don't like each other very much.

3. Romney is a northeastern governor. McCain will almost certainly choose a Southern Governor, like Haley Barbour of Mississippi to balance out the ticket.

4. Although nominally a Southern governor, Huckabee is not a suitable running mate because of his liberal (or "populist," if you prefer) track record as governor of Arkansas. He also scares people outside of activist evangelism almost as much as people's (misguided) perceptions of Mormons in high office. Huckabee would be a risky gamble as a running mate.

You heard it here first! I'm calling the current governor of Mississippi to be McCain's running mate. Haley Barbour.

5. An interesting wrinkle in all this is the fact that senators simply aren't elected as president. They run in droves every four years, but the last one was Kennedy, and he beat Nixon by a razor thin margin and most analysts believe that Nixon would have won without the blatant and rampant cheating in Chicago and Lousiana. The only other senator was Warren G. Harding (pre-Depression). Otherwise, they are almost always governors, probably because governors have a proven track record being an executive of a large government.

Yet, we will have senators in each corner this year, ensuring that the next president is a senator. Romney won the conservative votes, and McCain won pluralities with moderates and cross-over voters in open primaries. That's just how it worked out this time around.

 

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