On the flip side of that argunment, if you don't like the way things are going, can you do any worse ?

Apples and oranges here.  Arpaio has violated laws regarding requests for public information.  Carl has decided not to respond to this website, and with good cause.  There is no laws regarding making statements to media.  Carl drew his line in the sand and for better or worse he's standing behind it.  

Gilbertglycn I feel that Carl should  of referred anyone seeking information about his candidacy to another web site or venue.  But to just   use no comment seems not too business like.  I see you mentioned he was justified, how convenient to give him a passing grade and go on.  Is candidate Dietrich representing his own selected ones? I understand your report card on Kelly Haddad, and agree on the most part with your statements.  I hope a clean slate will make a difference, but questionable with the existing council and city staff attitudes.  Tony Smith had an open forum and once elected he disappeared and has not been heard from since, what happened to the open communication lines promised as a viable leader?

Then don't vote for her!  Oh yeah she isn't running.  If you had taken time to meet Carl and Kimberly you wil find they are if nothing else honest.  They will speak their mind warts and all.  I like the lack of pretense.  I also like what Kimberly has done for the animals of this community.  I credit Carl for getting me involved with the Public Safety Committee.  When the Safety Committe created a traffic subcommittee, the MASH Drug Coalition and the new forming Animal Control Committee Carl was there. 

Feel free to dislike them for being human, but make sure you are at least trying to bring as much good to the plate as they are.

azsouthendzone - But the only factor that the voters can control is the nature of the elected leadership. If you feel that they have not done a good job, get rid of them. If you feel that they have done a good job, keep them.

This is part of the problem with small towns and public forums. When people get to know other people and then have a falling out- all the dirty laundry gets aired. People take sides and the truth or even happy medium is lost.

Your best bet is to not let any of that pursued how you vote. Review each of the candidates websites- if they have had Q&A sessions review how those have gone. If you still have questions contact those actually running and ask those questions.

It is your vote to vote how you see fit. If you vote based on someone else's opinion than you are doing yourself an unjustice.

Try not to get wrapped up in all of the other BS on here or any other forum.

I agree, Aaron.  I think the old adage "Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see" definitely applies to Internet Forum posts written by folks using screen names.  Sometimes I'm inclined to not believe anything here until I can verify via another source. 

When it comes to voting, I think that in the past I've been guilty of voting for change solely for the sake of change.  I'm a little wiser now, I do my research, and really make an effort to make my vote an informed one.  I think we all owe our community, our country and the candidates nothing less.       

Not propaganda.  I'm asking you look at the big picture before making hasty decisions.  You are judging them based on a few casual remarks on a web forum without examining everything, now that's being informed.  Maybe if you asked them some questions you would see the basis of their opinions. 

Considering this forum discourages refering to other competing sources that would be Un Businesslike of Carl to do so.  Funny thing is have seen Carl spend time talking with you at public meetings, it seems to me you have had no trouble finding out where he stands.

Is Carl's silence on this forum the result of a disagreement with the owners or managers of this web site?  I find it hard to believe, but that seems to be what posters are saying here!  

Up until his boycott, he was my favorite candidate!  But, if he is capable of holding grudges, doesn't that make him incapable of representing the citizens of Maricopa fairly and equally?.  

The lack of fair and equal representation by the City Council is the main reason I've been urging the citizens of Maricopa to "clean the slate".