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AzSandSlinger
Posts:578


 | | 05/04/2008 5:59 AM |
Alert | I thought "inteligent" was spelled "intelligent", with two letter "L"'s.
lol.. apparently the classes he took for his baccalaureate degree and master's didn't do much for his grammar..
... and Hastings
..just because you are "educated" on paper doesn't mean you can't have the thought process of a mental midget (and no, that isn't directed to you specifically).. I wasn't degrading you or insulting you.. I stand by my post.. worrying about who OUTSIDE entities support means dippity-do to me... and if it influences how people vote.. those people shouldn't be voting..
I agree with Reagan.. unless Hamas is shoveling money to him (and he knowingly accepts it).. this issue is moot..
There's no "stimulating" debate to be had here.. it's a non-issue.. much like the "Osama Bin Laden supports John Kerry" issue.. I cared less about that as well...
I mean really.. if it means that much to you to have a "stimulating" debate of who supports who.. choose something that might actually have some merit.. this one is ridiculous..
-Shane | | ------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra Super Member Posts: eleventy-billion Joined: 10 Nov 1775 ------------------------------------------------------------- "There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion."
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| | hastings1066
Posts:872


 | | 05/04/2008 1:48 PM |
Alert | Rex proves my point. He would rather take cheap shots at typos than discuss and debate issues. That attitude is a shame as it drives people away from this forum. I wish those of us who would like an adult discussion of issues could have one without the juvenile attitude of the "gotcha" commandos. AzSandslinger, if you like to play the gotcha game over typos please read your first post on this subject. you will find that horse crap ( a rather crude way to say that you think a point is irrelevant) is two words not one, and premis should be premise. I did not mention these points before as I felt that they were not relevant. I made the assumption that your errors were typos. | | | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:571

 | | 05/04/2008 3:14 PM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 05/02/2008 2:21 PM Posted By asugrl on 05/02/2008 1:31 AM Posted By ChimneyDuck on 05/01/2008 4:19 PM
Hastings, isn't it obvious? McCain has Christian Zionists supporting him (which he publically accepted).
Also, it seems to me that Democrats seem to have better results in the middle east peace front then Republicans. Of course, because Democrats will let them get away with a lot more. I would support Obama if I were a terrorist, too; he will most likely not do anything, in an attempt at world peace. I don't really like McCain either, but I think any candidate that scares or threatens the terrorists is preferrable to one the terrorists actually like.
And I thought I was the "dunce" when it came to politics?
Terrorists are going to keep doing what they do. Allah doesn't tell them to stop when America has a better president.
Oh, rest assured. You are still the "dunce" lol. If you cannot see why a terrorist would be more afraid of a "warmonger" like McCain than a...well, a Democrat like Obama, then maybe you need to take a look at the aspects that divide democrats and republicans. I am pretty sure neither democrat running for office has plans to send in more troops, to say the least. But hey, I could be wrong. | | | |
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| | HiggsBoson
Posts:641


 | | 05/04/2008 3:42 PM |
Alert | Poor Obama, first Drummer72 endorses him, then Hamas 
Thanks, Higgs | | Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts. -- Ludwig Von Mises | |
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| | rex
Posts:295


 | | 05/04/2008 4:18 PM |
Alert | OK, hastings1066. If you want real discussions about Hamas endorsing Obama, then I'll give it to you.
Hamas endorsing Obama is troubling to me. But, is this any different than the 1979 Iranian hostage takers endorsing Ronald Reagan?
In 1979, a group of Iranian students overtook the American Embassy there. They held American diplomats hostage for 444 days because they hated Jimmy Carter and America. A few minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn in as President, the hostages were released. In my opinion, this must be an endorsement for Ronald Reagan. Therefore, if it is OK for the Iranian hostage takers to endorse Ronald Reagan, then it must also be OK for Hamas to endorse a Democrat.
If you believe Ronald Reagan was a great President despite the fact that the Iranian hostage takers endorsed him, you should also believe that a Democrat is capable of becoming a great President despite being endorsed by a terrorist organization.
As for me taking a cheap shot, that was not my intention. I thought it was humorous that you wanted an intelligent discussion on the issues, but spelled intelligent incorrectly. I thought it was funny and ironic. I was hoping that you had a good sense of humor. I was wrong. I apologize for the cheap shot.
The truly sad part is that the intolerance and group-think by the Republicans on this forum has repelled me from the Republican party. | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:872


 | | 05/04/2008 7:23 PM |
Alert | rex- If you will read my posts with care, you will note that in the first one I said that Obama rejected the endorsement of Hamas. In a follow up post I also stated an argument in Obama's favor regarding the endorsement. I had hoped for a discussion of the possible thinking of Hamas and how they misjudge Americans if they think that opposition to terrorism is a partisan issue in the US. If you review the history of the 20th century you will find that the record is replete with times when opponents of US policy felt that they would be would be better off with one President rather than another. Most of the time they were in error. Perhaps such a discussion is too academic for such a partisan time (election year). That's a shame, it could have been interesting. | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:643


 | | 05/05/2008 8:50 PM |
Alert | Posted By HiggsBoson on 05/04/2008 3:42 PM
Poor Obama, first Drummer72 endorses him, then Hamas 
Thanks,
Higgs Ha. You're forgetting Rev. Wright. (although now I'm not sure if he's endorsing him anymore. Lover's quarrel.) | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3528


 | | 05/05/2008 10:05 PM |
Alert | Posted By HiggsBoson on 05/04/2008 3:42 PM
Poor Obama, first Drummer72 endorses him, then Hamas 
Thanks,
Higgs Got a better option? | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3528


 | | 05/05/2008 10:06 PM |
Alert | Posted By missPolitick on 05/05/2008 8:50 PM Posted By HiggsBoson on 05/04/2008 3:42 PM
Poor Obama, first Drummer72 endorses him, then Hamas 
Thanks,
Higgs Ha. You're forgetting Rev. Wright. (although now I'm not sure if he's endorsing him anymore. Lover's quarrel.)
Let 's see who's laughing in November. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:643


 | | 05/06/2008 7:50 AM |
Alert | | Yes, lets. | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1014


 | | 05/06/2008 9:16 AM |
Alert | If Obama gets elected, it's gonna be interesting, very interesting! A Marxist president trying to convince a Capitalistic Congress to give up a system that allows ownership of property for one that doesn't. I don't think many members of Congress, even Democrats, are going buy into that! | | | |
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| | caveman
Posts:1063


 | | 05/06/2008 10:12 AM |
Alert | | Cactus Rob why do you think that Obama is a Marxist? | | | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1014


 | | | hastings1066
Posts:872


 | | 05/06/2008 12:31 PM |
Alert | I do not support Obama, and could never vote for him. Having said that, I must also state that, in fairness to him, he is no Marxist. From what I have read of his positions, his thinking is in line with the left wing of the Democratic party. That group is akin to the Social Democrats of Europe, Socialist but not Marxist. The number of web sites that say he is a Marxist is irrelevant. Both the left and the right have numerous sites that seek to demonize their opponents by using exaggeration, misinterpretation, and downright lies. Both sides follow Hitler's admonition to "Make the lie big,make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." The web is a great tool for research but one must always be on the alert for agenda driven sources, many of them have little regard for fairness or honesty. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3528


 | | 05/06/2008 2:22 PM |
Alert | Posted By Cactus Rob on 05/06/2008 9:16 AM If Obama gets elected, it's gonna be interesting, very interesting! A Marxist president trying to convince a Capitalistic Congress to give up a system that allows ownership of property for one that doesn't. I don't think many members of Congress, even Democrats, are going buy into that! You are the reason people are voting for McCain. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1014


 | | 05/06/2008 2:33 PM |
Alert | hastings, I don't know that Obama is a Marxist, all I'm saying is that the preponderance of evidence points me in that direction. Obama admits that some of his friends are known Marxists. Whether we like it or not, we are known by the company we keep. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3528


 | | 05/06/2008 2:43 PM |
Alert | That's like not liking someone, because he knows someone who is a marxist! What if you met a really nice person and he/she ended up to be a marxist? Would we hate you because you associate with a marxist? I think not. Do americans think the U.S. will turn into 1940's Russia?...I think so. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1014


 | | 05/06/2008 3:18 PM |
Alert | drummer, It's also known as guilt by association and knowing this, wise people choose their friends and associates very carefully. Like I said, whether we like it or not, we are known by the company we keep. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3528


 | | 05/06/2008 3:29 PM |
Alert | | understood | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:643


 | | 05/07/2008 9:23 AM |
Alert | Maybe Hamas is publicly endorsing Obama so that we will get freaked out and vote for Hillary, which is probably who they actually want in the oval office. I bet she fills her bathtub every night with 'dirty' money. | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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