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SinbadUser is Offline

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02/08/2008 2:25 PM Alert 

I am not the most political savvy person by far. I am not the one that is going to lead my people to the promise land. I am a person that is down to earth and understands that this city is heading down one or two paths.

 

Path one,

We can stay wrapped up in this political fog that the current administration has us in and roll over dead. We could continue to have the "Conflicts of Interest" problems that have our City Hall located in a double wide on a $300,000.00 temp paved lot. We could continue to take two steps forward and at the same time take one step back.

 

Path Two,

We use the upcoming election to put in the right people for the job. People that will ask the people what is important to them and than give the people what they want. People that understand that at this moment, spending the time and money for an airport is the least of our worries next to having a structure to call City Hall and working on the transportation issues. Most of all..."NO CONFLICT OF INTERST ISSUES" what so ever.

 

 

This is why I am throwing my hat in with Marty Hermanson for City Council. I have had talks with him and he does have a clear path to help our city down path two. If we fill the other council spots with candidates that are for the people, than we citizens of City of Maricopa can again have a voice in the cities development.

 

Feel free to click on the links in my signature and see for yourself. If you have questions, you can email him through his website.


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02/08/2008 2:48 PM Alert 
Posted By Sinbad on 02/08/2008 2:25 PM

 

 People that understand that at this moment, spending the time and money for an airport is the least of our worries next to having a structure to call City Hall and working on the transportation issues.

 

 

Sinbad, I haven't looked at Hermanson yet, but I will.

 

I agree with you on your post, with one exception.  Your sentence above.

 

What I don't think people understand, is that an airport in already 5-10 years off, even if they continue the planning.  If you wait and start later, the pole is so long you may miss the mark and opportunity.  If you can tell a company that the city is pro-airport and in the planning stages, that buys you so much more than if you tell them we are anti-airport.

 

If the city does this right, they will go through this one phase at a time and a new city council will have an opportunity to check the value at each phase.  It's not an all or nothing situation.  Each phase is brought before the city council.  The construction phase is years off.

 

The other thing I think people are missing, is that the city council will select the projects to work over the next year.  They can work on several projects at one time, such as city hall/city center, economic development, library, whatever.  They will also prioritize them.

 

To say 'No' to the current planning phases of the airport, is the same as telling a potential developer or company that is looking at Maricopa who may be interested in an airport, that we don't want them.  I don't think that is a good idea for Maricopa.

 

Any candidate who is saying 'No' to the airport is short sighted.  They need to get a broader vision or they will kill Maricopa.  Not only with regard to the airport, but with many other projects the city needs to consider.

 

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02/08/2008 3:26 PM Alert 
To say 'No' to the current planning phases of the airport, is the same as telling a potential developer or company that is looking at Maricopa who may be interested in an airport, that we don't want them. I don't think that is a good idea for Maricopa.




I never said that said that Marty is Anti-Airport. He understands the need for one in the future.

Feel free to email him on his website to if you need to know where he stands on certain views.


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As for me, I don't see a need for an airport. I need another entrance/exit in and out of the city. To bring more Employers out here, we need to fix the traffic problems that we currently have and the furture problems that will accure when employee's drive here to work. Remember that we are still growing and that will also add to the traffic problems.

I don't think that emplyee's are going to be flying in here every day to go to work.




The other thing I think people are missing, is that the city council will select the projects to work over the next year. They can work on several projects at one time, such as city hall/city center, economic development, library, whatever. They will also prioritize them.



see, my problem with this is, They have been in a double wide for how long now? 3-4 years? How long does it take to build a city hall? Everytime they vote on a spot, one or two of them can't vote do to conflict. If you ask me, I think they need to stick with doing one thing at a time WELL rather than doing serval things half (insert TOU Viloation here).

those are my thoughts.

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02/08/2008 3:55 PM Alert 

Appreciate your views. btw, I didn't intend to indicate that Hermanson was anti-airport, I understood that you were against it. So no problem there.

I totally agree on the transportation issue as well. However, do you realize that that problem won't be solved for years to come as well. All of this takes time. And if you say you don't want something right now, when you do want it or need it, often times it'll be too late. Because these things take so much long pole time. And you can't ignore what the companies who may see Maricopa as a potential may want. An airport may not be important to you or those on the streets, but there is a possibility that it may be important to a potential company.

Working multiple projects at a time is not the problem. Conflict of interest is the problem! Remove that, put people in who know how to get things done, who know how to manage a project and you can accomplish several projects in parallel with no problem.

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02/08/2008 4:07 PM Alert 

Posted By Sinbad on 02/08/2008 3:26 PM

As for me, I don't see a need for an airport. I need another entrance/exit in and out of the city. To bring more Employers out here, we need to fix the traffic problems that we currently have and the furture problems that will accure when employee's drive here to work. Remember that we are still growing and that will also add to the traffic problems.



Sinbad,

Everyone wants more employers who pay well in Maricopa.  More retail, etc would be nice, but that won't pay the bills.  We want employers who pay well.

You would be surprised how many of employers, who pay well, use small airports.  That's the point I'm trying to make.  Sorry if it was confusing.

It's all wrapped up in a big picture.  If our city council doesn't keep the the big picture in focus, guess who loses?  Us!  So, I'll take a big picture council over a small picture council any day.

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02/08/2008 4:09 PM Alert 

sorry, double posted accidentally

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02/11/2008 2:03 PM Alert 
Could you tell me "how many BIG business are in Casa Grande?" Not retail... Big business. Building an Airport with out having some idea of what type of business would be attracted by it ...is kind of...well exspensive to the tax payer's.

It sounds like the "If you build it, They will com" idea.

I am truely understanding what you are saying, but I think it's a high risk that the tax payers will have to endure in the long run. The current council isn't doing enough to inform us otherwise that it would be a great idea. They are doing the starting work and then getting voted out. We spent a lot of money on this idea all ready.

I just want more info from them..I want them to convince me that the airport is a good idea. You have some strong points towards building one... thanks for sharing them.

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02/11/2008 4:55 PM Alert 

Thanks Sinbad for considering the pros to at least taking the airport concept one phase at a time.

Frito Lay Incorporated, is one large company in Casa Grande that uses the airport for their VP's. It provides easy access to their facility in Casa Grande. I've also been told that periodically, surgeon specialists will also use the airport for easy access to the Casa Grande Regional Hospital. That alone may attract a hospital. Who knows! I for one don't want to close the door to any potential opportunities for Maricopa. If you call the city (Maricopa) they will be able to provide more information. Keep in mind, there are different purposes, for different airports. The airport in Casa Grande was not designed with economic development in mind.

I saw that Candidate Godsey provided a list of what can't be done with the grant money for an airport. You need to know that most of what he stated is NOT accurate information. An example; buying the land for an airport. Buying land for an airport can indeed be purchased with grant money. It doesn't have to be at the expense of the residents. The city may choose not to build the airport right away, but they should at least consider where the airport should go AND consider buying the land, declaring it the site of an airport in the future. That way the land is not gone, when they determine it's time to build it. So if you can see the big picture, you realize planning for an airport now is critical, even if you only take it as far as purchasing the land now, for use later. This way, potential developers, who are interested in an airport, will know the city is on top of it.

Instead of 'If you build it they will come." a better way to look at it is 'If the city does its planning correctly, they will be ready when its time for it to come'. If they don't do the planning, it probably will never come.

There is a lot of inaccurate information on Godsey's website. So be careful what you believe and research for verification. If you read about Candidate Godsey's background, he has no city government experience whatsoever. If anything, because of his lack of experience, he will slow down progress instead of improving current progress. He has no public record that we can look at to judge how he will behave. I find that very scary! I personally believe he needs to get a public record of some type before I turn over the the Mayor postition to him. Who is he? How do we know we can trust him? He's done nothing as a city volunteer (such as Safety Board, PR&L Board, P&Z Commission) or elected (City Council)position during his time in Maricopa. Think about it.

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02/11/2008 4:56 PM Alert 
Sinbad - Very good points that you have raised, and as a result, I will look at Marty Hermanson for City Council. He can be for or against the airport, for or against building the Taj Mahal of City Halls, or for or against keeping us a smaller city with the added bonus of cow smell as a tourist attraction. As long as he looks at each issue and does what is best for Maricopa, that is what I am looking for in a candidate. I like his statements on his web site, and I hope he is at the candidates forum on February 16th put on by the Maricopa Chamber of Commerce and the Maricopa Women in Business. Thanks for the information on Marty!
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02/19/2008 3:34 PM Alert 
Frito Lay Incorporated, is one large company in Casa Grande that uses the airport for their VP's. It provides easy access to their facility in Casa Grande. I've also been told that periodically, surgeon specialists will also use the airport for easy access to the Casa Grande Regional Hospital.


I don't seem to see either of these companies here in the COPA... hum. Do you know if the Airports was built first or the Hospital? the thing is, If the city had talks with a large company that required an airport, then they should disclose that info to us. As I see it once again... we should get a large company on the hook and than dangle the airport carrot. Building an airport first is like putting the horse behind the cart!.

My wish list is like so.
1. City Hall
2. Traffic conditions (atleast keep the people updated and get a task force on it)
3. Railroad crossing. (Get a task force on it and get the railroad on the hook for half the cost for over/under pass.
5. Hospital
6. Big business
7. Airport!

I understand what you are saying about acting now for the future, but this city is way too young to be that proactive. Just don't throw a 2-4 year old child on the Potty and say "There ... you are trained". It takes time.

As for Godsey,

He sure has a silver tounge...he makes his words sound mighty nice.
As for Smith...just seems like business as usual with the old goverment.

So.. not much to look at either way. I just want the BEST for the city.


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02/20/2008 12:57 PM Alert 
Sinbad-
Sorry to jump in on Marty's thread. I also have a great deal of respect for Marty and think he will be a terrific addition to our council.

On the Casa Grande Airport. The airport has been there since the 1950's, it was gifted to the city by the federal government, it wasnt designed and built for the city. If you are curious about where any of the information for the airport came from, I will be happy to share it with you.

On the comment about buying land using grants here is a link to the info I provided on my site.
http://phoenix.gov/goodyearairport/about/gyr_pac_minutes_march_07.pdf
Near the bottom there is a quote from Coffman and Associates, Jim Harris about this topic. I never have said that land cannot be purchased using grants.

Here is a link to the FAA site regarding AIP funds (grants) we are trying to get and how we get them. I was directed here after speaking to Roger Kolman.
http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/airports/aip/overview/

Here is one for the feasibility study.
http://www.cityofmaricopa.net/news/pdf/MaricopaAirportFeasibilityStudy080707.pdf
Pay attention to page 1-2 where it refers to population projections. Im sorry, if we dont make some other changes first, we will never reach these projected numbers, therefore making an airport UNfeasible.

The point is I am a pilot and I love airports but with the information provided I just dont get the warm fuzzy feeling about one here. It has potential benefits but certainly some more severe potential risks.

Thats all I am saying.
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02/20/2008 2:20 PM Alert 
Posted By Sinbad on 02/19/2008 3:34 PM

As for Godsey,

He sure has a silver tounge...he makes his words sound mighty nice.
As for Smith...just seems like business as usual with the old goverment.

So.. not much to look at either way. I just want the BEST for the city.



If silver tongue is what you want, then silver tongue is what you'll get!

I was watching both candidates closely.  I've read the ramblings in Godsey's website.  Whew, ramblings!

I found a comment he made about how he thought Smith did some good things on P&Z, but as far as Godsey was concerned, not enough.

I asked if Godsey had ever been on P&Z to see Smith in action.  The answer: ZERO times has he been to P&Z.

Then I read an article from Kathy Hall in the Monitor last week.  Here is a piece of it:

"Another aspect of the campaign to date that I've found a little distressing, is the comments and assumptions that Smith is somehow part of the old regime, the "good ole boys" or handpicked by the old councilmembers.

While I'm not endorsing any candidates, I find it a grave injustice that this is the public's perception, because I know that none of this is true.

Smith's service on the Planning and Zoning Commission should not count against him, but rather for him.  Time and again, the current Council has rejected the suggestions of P&Z.  The Commissioners have often discussed at meetings the Council reversal of their imposed stipulations on developments.  So, there is certainly not a close connection between anyone on the commission and anyone on the Council."

And this statement is from a person who has been at nearly every P&Z and every city council meeting.  She has also been critical of the council and their lack of action on issues, yet she defends Smith's work on P&Z.

So it is evident to me that the 'Silver Tongue' will say anything necessary to get votes.  If that's what you want, then go for it.

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02/20/2008 2:36 PM Alert 
LOL... MaryMan...


Thanks for the tip.. But I am sure I know what I am doing. Thanks for info.

I have read Smith's website.... he is still in alignment with a lot of the "ole boys" thinking. I am still trying to figure out ..Just how much he had a hand in the COH deal. He told me that as soon as they started talking about the deal, he backed out of it.

My vote is still on the fence for either one of them. We will just have to see what happens.

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03/10/2008 8:37 AM Alert 
Don't forget to vote!!!



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03/11/2008 11:51 AM Alert 
So Sinbad, since you have your finger on Marty's pulse, please tell us how much time he spends in Maricopa. It seems that being a National Sales Manager for Boston Beer (Sam Adams) might require a lot of time away from his constituents. Will he be attending all meetings if elected?
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03/11/2008 12:58 PM Alert 
To answer your question.

He has had some job responsibility changes that doesn't require him to be away from home that often. If he felt that he couldn't and didn't have the time to devote to this position, he wouldn't have ran. Marty told me, "I can make my own travel arrangements that will allow me to schedule times that I might be out of the city around the times that I will be needed here."

I hope that helps.

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03/11/2008 12:59 PM Alert 
As many people have often told me.

"These aren't full time positions"......(YET). If they were, they would be paying them full position salaries.

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03/11/2008 3:02 PM Alert 
Here is the reason that you don't take money from Rick Buss.


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03/11/2008 4:22 PM Alert 
I am not concerned with Marty having an occasional business commitment that requires him to miss a meeting - in fact every council member has had this situation at one time or another as I recall with the current council. I am concerned that Griffin would miss far more than Marty given her "job" with the city of Mesa and as we all know, city employees often work late hours - not to mention the need to go to those council meetings which could conflict with ours at some point (even though now on different days - what if that changed? What if we have a special session???). I see Marty as having far less conflicts overall than many of the other candidates.
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03/12/2008 7:40 PM Alert 

I guess we'll never know whether Marty would have had more conflicts than Ms. Griffin. Better luck next time Marty

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