drummer72
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 | | 10/10/2007 12:14 PM |
 Alert | http://www.85239.com/NEWS/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?mid1=390&&ArticleID=730&&name=c&&id=1
Someone would have been alive today, had guns been outlawed. | |
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azsouthendzone
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| | 10/10/2007 12:16 PM |
Alert | | Not really. If you want to kill someone you will find a way to get a gun or kill them by other means. | | | |
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HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 10/10/2007 12:17 PM |
Alert | AZSEZ,
Didnt you know the only way to kill someone is with a gun??? You must be brainwashed by Fox News.
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Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
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drummer72
Posts:3626
| | 10/10/2007 12:19 PM |
Alert | Posted By azsouthendzone on 10/10/2007 12:16 PM
Not really. If you want to kill someone you will find a way to get a gun or kill them by other means.
People react on impulse during times like that. If they just had a few more seconds to think about what they were doing, they might have not pulled the trigger.
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Jason
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| | 10/10/2007 12:20 PM |
Alert | Right, they might have used their hands, or a knife, or blunt object...
Like you say, they act on impulse. Guns are by no means the only object available to release that impulse. | |
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drummer72
Posts:3626
| | 10/10/2007 12:23 PM |
Alert | Ok there's Jason. All we need is that crazy Brit, Jhall.
Most people can't kill someone as fast as they can with a gun. People can defend themselves easier if it's not a gun. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/10/2007 12:26 PM |
Alert | That's a specious argument. Ask any police department and they can give you stacks of cases where the victim was killed by something other than a gun.
Outlawing guns ensures that the only people who get them are criminals. And police. | |
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leefamily
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| | 10/10/2007 12:26 PM |
Alert | | A gun is an 'easy' way to do it. Guns put you at a distance. I bet a lot less murders would happen if there were no guns. It's not as easy to get close to someone to stab them - it's more personal. guns are impersonal. | | | |
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J9Design
Posts:271
| | 10/10/2007 12:29 PM |
Alert | | Just because gun are outlawed , doesn't mean people won't have them illegally anyway. If you look at any other thing that is contraband, people find ways to get it. Guns don't kill people--people kill people. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 10/10/2007 12:31 PM |
Alert | | Knives can be thrown. People can be killed in their sleep. There are hundreds of ways to kill easily, other than a gun. | |
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drummer72
Posts:3626
| | 10/10/2007 12:33 PM |
Alert | This is getting good! How many more cliches can we post before the afternoon is over?
All I'm saying IS,is that there would be far less homicides with guns, if they were restricted. I understand people will get them some how, but it would be far less than what's floating around in this violent country of ours. | |
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drummer72
Posts:3626
| | 10/10/2007 12:34 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 10/10/2007 12:31 PM
Knives can be thrown. People can be killed in their sleep. There are hundreds of ways to kill easily, other than a gun.
Yeah and ninjas with throwing stars too!
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AzSandSlinger
Posts:587
| | 10/10/2007 12:35 PM |
Alert | Chris Rock:
“Gun control? We need bullet control! I think every bullet should cost 5,000 dollars. Because if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, we wouldn't have any innocent bystanders.”
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J9Design
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| | 10/10/2007 12:37 PM |
Alert | I like that logic. Similar to the diabetes meters. Give the meters away free, and soak the people for the strips needed to do the job.
Prohibition didn't eliminate alcohol any more than gun control will eliminate guns.
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HiggsBoson
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| | 10/10/2007 12:45 PM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 10/10/2007 12:33 PM
This is getting good! How many more cliches can we post before the afternoon is over?
All I'm saying IS,is that there would be far less homicides with guns, if they were restricted.
Brilliant!
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Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
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HiggsBoson
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| | 10/10/2007 12:52 PM |
Alert | cliches?
The biggest cliche of all is the typical knee-jerk reaction of the uninformed calling for more gun control (or bans) whenever something like this happens.
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Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
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The Family Guy
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| | 10/10/2007 12:53 PM |
Alert | | Drummer, I see what you are saying, but before you make statements like "there would be far less homicides with guns, if they were restricted" you should really do some research to support it. Facts are only facts if you have facts to support them. I would be interested to see the percentage of murders that involve a gun as opposed to other weapons. In AZ, guns are very easy to get, in a place like NY, not so much (legally). I would like to know if the # of gun related murders is substantially different in AZ than NY. My point is this what others have been making here, restricting gun control will not necessarily reduce the # of murders with guns or # of murders overall. | | | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 10/10/2007 12:55 PM |
Alert | Guns just don't pick themselves up and Fire!
Guns don't kill people..... Everything else does!!! | |
Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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DesertDweller
Posts:2559
| | 10/10/2007 12:56 PM |
Alert | Guns are illegal in England. Instead, the IRA used bombs to blow up who or whatever they wanted.
It's not the guns that are a problem - it's the misuse of them that's a problem. | |
Stupid should hurt!
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HiggsBoson
Posts:641
| | 10/10/2007 12:57 PM |
Alert | We cannot legislate all risk from life.
How many of our constitutional rights must we give up in order for you to feel safe?
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Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
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