Cactus Rob
Posts:1203


 | | 10/09/2008 2:15 PM |
Alert | Two of the most popular Democrats to have ever run for the presidency are John F. Kennedy and Barack H. Obama! President Kennedy urged Americans to ask NOT what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country! Barack H. Obama urges Americans to ask NOT what you can do for your country - ask what your country can do for you! My how the mindset of some Americans have changed! | | | |
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cholo bandito
Posts:926

 | | 10/09/2008 3:37 PM |
Alert | GIMME MORE, GIMME MORE! I AM ENTITLED! | |
I think the concept of god has outlived its usefulness. It is time to put it out of its misery. | |
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caveman
Posts:1274


 | | 10/09/2008 5:06 PM |
Alert | Posted By Cactus Rob on 10/09/2008 2:15 PM Two of the most popular Democrats to have ever run for the presidency are John F. Kennedy and Barack H. Obama! What makes them two of the most popular? Do you have anything to back this up other than opinion? | | | |
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kenmoreguy72
Posts:223

 | | 10/09/2008 5:31 PM |
Alert | My friends... Talk about reaching for straws.
I have heard Obama talk a lot about service to our country my friends. My friends, I have heard a lot about him wanting to expand the Peace Corps. C'mon my friends, stick with the facts.
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kenmoreguy72
Posts:223

 | | 10/09/2008 5:35 PM |
Alert | What can your country do for you??? Wasn't it McCain that wants the government to buy up all the bad mortgages? No, wait. He flip-flopped on that... | | | |
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kenmoreguy72
Posts:223

 | | 10/09/2008 5:42 PM |
Alert | My friends.... Something is wrong here. The original post is another mid-informed statement.....
Obama's plan as to expanding voulntary service:
•Encourage national service to address the great challenges of our time, including combating climate change, extending health care, improving our schools and strengthening America overseas by showing the world the best of our nation.
•Expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots and double the size of the Peace Corps.
•Integrate service-learning into our schools and universities to enable students to graduate college with as
many as 17 weeks of service experience under their belts.
•Provide new service opportunities for working Americans and retirees.
•Expand service initiatives that engage disadvantaged young people and advance their education.
•Expand the capacity of nonprofits to innovate and expand successful programs across the country.
And in his expanded American Corps:
Classroom Corps to help teachers and students, with a priority placed on high-need and underserved schools. The Corps will enlist retired or mid-career engineers and scientists to provide support for math and science teachers in the form of mentoring, student tutoring, curriculum development, and
technology support. It will recruit neighborhood civic, business and faith leaders to offer after-school programs and community service opportunities. And the Corps will draft parents, grandparents, college students or community members to mentor and provide one-on-one assistance to students, and assist with classroom activities under the direction of teachers.
Health Corps to improve public health information and outreach to areas with inadequate health systems such as rural areas and inner cities. Participants will provide basic health information and would be trained to assist health professionals including by helping to enroll people eligible for, but not enrolled in, government-sponsored health insurance programs such as the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. Corps members will help organize health fairs, conduct health outreach into underserved communities and provide additional personnel to community health facilities.
Clean Energy Corps to promote energy independence through efforts like weatherization, renewable energy projects and educational outreach. Participants will also work to clean up polluted land and water, plant trees, and work for the environmental health of our nation’s natural areas.
Veterans Corps to help keep America’s sacred trust with its veterans. The Corps will make a special effort to recruit veterans of all ages to participate. These participants will assist veterans at Department of Veterans Affairs facilities, nursing homes, homeless shelters and elsewhere.
Homeland Security Corps to help communities plan, prepare for and respond to emergencies.
Participants will include full-time members who work with communities to help them plan and prepare for emergency response as well as a cadre of volunteers who can be mobilized to help in a national disaster. The Corps would draw on the experience of the National Civilian Community Corps, and work in cooperation with the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). As a U.S. senator, Obama introduced legislation to create a national emergency health professional volunteer corps to ensure there is a ready pool of volunteer doctors and nurses who are willing, trained, and certified to serve in times of disaster. Obama’s planned Homeland Security Corps would build on that effort.
Next smear attempt please my friends..... | | | |
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Cactus Rob
Posts:1203


 | | 10/09/2008 7:31 PM |
Alert | I can assure you that Obama's vision of requiring voluntary service (??) and paid socialistic programs like you describe wasn't what JFK had in mind. | | | |
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hastings1066
Posts:1011


 | | 10/09/2008 8:27 PM |
Alert | You have been seduced by the JFK hype that his supporters have pushed since his death. He is far from being one of the most popular Dem presidents to be elected. As a matter of fact he got 49.7% of the vote verses the 49.5% that Nixon got. There is a very good chance that he would have lost the election if the Dem party had not used control of the major cities political machines to inflate his vote by fraud. Remember the proud boast in Chicago "just because you are dead does not mean that you don't still have the right to vote".In 1932 FDR won 58% of the vote far outstripping JFK in the Dem popularity sweepstakes. As for Obama, it is a sign of his weakness that, given the unpopularity of Bush and the economic situation, he is not ahead by 15 or 20 points. I think that Clinton would have the election in the bag if she had won the nomination. For months polls showed an unnamed Dem beating an unnamed Rep with ease. When Obama was named, the race tightened up. | | | |
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OBG II
Posts:630


 | | 10/10/2008 3:43 AM |
Alert | Like a snowball headed for the hot place! | | Carroll O Connor, aka Archie Bunker, a great American!
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Cactus Rob
Posts:1203


 | | 10/10/2008 8:44 AM |
Alert | Posted By hastings1066 on 10/09/2008 8:27 PM You have been seduced by the JFK hype that his supporters have pushed since his death. He is far from being one of the most popular Dem presidents to be elected. As a matter of fact he got 49.7% of the vote verses the 49.5% that Nixon got. There is a very good chance that he would have lost the election if the Dem party had not used control of the major cities political machines to inflate his vote by fraud. Remember the proud boast in Chicago "just because you are dead does not mean that you don't still have the right to vote".In 1932 FDR won 58% of the vote far outstripping JFK in the Dem popularity sweepstakes. As for Obama, it is a sign of his weakness that, given the unpopularity of Bush and the economic situation, he is not ahead by 15 or 20 points. I think that Clinton would have the election in the bag if she had won the nomination. For months polls showed an unnamed Dem beating an unnamed Rep with ease. When Obama was named, the race tightened up. I was referring to JFK's popularity after his assassination. I didn't vote for him and I felt voters had made a mistake by electing him. As for Obama's popularity, I think it is truly amazing when you consider that he is part of a Democrat controlledCongress which has only a 9% approval rating. | | | |
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thick
Posts:652

 | | 10/10/2008 9:27 AM |
Alert | Obama comes across cooly polished and even I perked up a year ago in excitement. He's a stand-out. If I didn't disagree with his approach on nearly every issue, I'd be on board in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, the only other viable candidate is McCain and the Reps are not running his campaign well. IMO, they are really missing the boat on how to connect with voters and draw them in. Maybe they really do need a few years to regroup and re-evaluate. | | | |
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MissLisaMarie
Posts:174


 | | 10/10/2008 9:51 AM |
Alert | I think someone should ressurect President Reagan. He might look pretty bad, but he'll he'd do better than what we got now. This is how my ballot will look:
[ ] Obama/Biden [ ] McCain/Palin [X] SpongeBob/Patrick | | A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice. | |
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pissedparent
Posts:355

 | | 10/10/2008 12:26 PM |
Alert | JFK is only popular because he died so tragically. Didn't he bring us to the brink on nuclear war? I seem to remember him differently then those who were alive to "know" him. History tens to do that to icons.
John Lennon, Marilyn Monroe, James Dean...... | | | |
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JasonY
Posts:3446


 | | 10/10/2008 1:13 PM |
Alert | Posted By pissedparent on 10/10/2008 12:26 PM
JFK is only popular because he died so tragically. Didn't he bring us to the brink on nuclear war? I seem to remember him differently then those who were alive to "know" him. History tens to do that to icons.
John Lennon, Marilyn Monroe, James Dean......
Ummmm.......go read up on the Cuban Missile Crisis.......yeah.........
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hastings1066
Posts:1011


 | | 10/10/2008 7:07 PM |
Alert | Cuban missile crises- At the start the US had missiles in Turkey (bordering on the USSR), and the Soviets had no missiles in Cuba. After the crises and negotiations, the Soviets had no missiles in Cuba and we had no missiles in Turkey. Who won? JFK was a mediocre President with youth, good looks, and,a hot wife. All the rest was hype by his posse and a liberal press. At a meeting of Americas most prominent historians , they were asked to make a list of the 10 best Presidents, JFK did not make the cut. | | | |
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frappucino addict
Posts:194


 | | 10/10/2008 7:25 PM |
Alert | Posted By MissLisaMarie on 10/10/2008 9:51 AM
I think someone should ressurect President Reagan. He might look pretty bad, but he'll he'd do better than what we got now. This is how my ballot will look:
[ ] Obama/Biden
[ ] McCain/Palin
[X] SpongeBob/Patrick Even though I disagree with most of your political posts, even I have to admit... THAT'S funny!  | | | |
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akflyer
Posts:58

 | | 10/10/2008 11:01 PM |
Alert | | I've always wondered why it was okay for JFK to invade Cuba and chalk it up to bad intelligence but when Bush did it in Iraq he "lied". | | | |
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caveman
Posts:1274


 | | 10/11/2008 10:12 AM |
Alert | Posted By akflyer on 10/10/2008 11:01 PM
I've always wondered why it was okay for JFK to invade Cuba and chalk it up to bad intelligence but when Bush did it in Iraq he "lied". Perhaps because Bush has killed more Americans in his war with Iraq than died in 9/11. There is no connection between 9/11 and Iraq. Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. The Iraq war has been a total failure. Shall I continue? I don't see how you can even compare these two military actions. | | | |
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GuyPinestra
Posts:683


 | | 10/11/2008 10:59 AM |
Alert | Posted By akflyer on 10/10/2008 11:01 PM
I've always wondered why it was okay for JFK to invade Cuba and chalk it up to bad intelligence but when Bush did it in Iraq he "lied". JFK never invaded Cuba. Google 'Bay of Pigs' for a history lesson. | | "The seeds of self-destruction are sown in the shallowness of your mind." | |
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pissedparent
Posts:355

 | | 10/11/2008 8:53 PM |
Alert | Posted By hastings1066 on 10/10/2008 7:07 PM Cuban missile crises- At the start the US had missiles in Turkey (bordering on the USSR), and the Soviets had no missiles in Cuba. After the crises and negotiations, the Soviets had no missiles in Cuba and we had no missiles in Turkey. Who won? JFK was a mediocre President with youth, good looks, and,a hot wife. All the rest was hype by his posse and a liberal press. At a meeting of Americas most prominent historians , they were asked to make a list of the 10 best Presidents, JFK did not make the cut.
That is pretty much what I was told....oh and he cheated on his wife and maybe had Monroe killed.
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