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corman
Posts:1383


 | | 10/07/2008 10:21 AM |
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Think about it
The OPEC minister will look you in the eyes and state: ' We are at war with you infidels. Have been since the embargo in the 1970s. You are so arrogant youhaven't even recognized it. You have more missiles, bombs, and technology; so we are fighting with the best weapon we have and extracting on a net basis about $700 billion/year out of your economy. We will destroy you! Death to the infidels! While I am here I would like to thank you for the following:
1) Not developing your 250-300 year supply of oil shale and tarsands. we know if you did this, it would create millions of jobs for U S citizens, expand your engineering capabilities, and keep the wealth in the US instead of sending it to us to finance our war against you stupid bastards.
2) Thanks for limiting defense dept. purchases of oil sands from your neighbors to the north. We love it when you confuse your allies .
3) Thanks for over regulating every segment of your economy and thus delaying, bydecades, the development of alternate fuel technolog ies.
4) Thanks for limiting drilling off your coasts, in Alaska , and anywhere there is a bug,bird, fish, or plant that might be inconvenienced. Better that your people suffer! Glad to see our lobbying efforts have been so effective.
5) Corn based Ethanol. Praise Allah for this sham program! Perhaps you will destroy yourself from the inside with these types of policies. This is a gift from Allah, praise his name! We never would have thought of this one! This is better than when you pay your farmers NOT TO GROW FOOD. Have them use more energy to create less energy, and simultaneously drive food prices through the roof.
Thank you US Congress!!!!
6) Thank you letting us fleece you without end. You will be glad to know we havebeen accumulating shares in your banks, real estate, and publicly held companies. We also finance a good portion of your debt and now manipulate your markets, currency, and economies to our benefit.
7) Finally, thank you for allowing us to nominate one of our own for president of the United States! We have donated millions to the election fund of Barack Obama-a man who is anti-American, anti-military, anti-Christian, and anti-white. Obama will be the ideal president for us, and we will donate billions more, if necessary to get him elected. When Obama is your president, we will decimate your military, open your border s to the people of Islam, set up terrorist groups in all of your cities, build mosques throughout your land, and begin the conversion of American people to Islam. In a short time, you will be working for us!
You may wonder why I am giving away all of our secrets. I do not hesitate to tell you our plans, because I'm convinced that Americans are too stupid to recognize the truth, even when it is spread out before them. I believe the next election will prove me right, and soon I will be telling you what you can and cannot do. Wait and seeAmerica !
After we take over your country, I will read this warning to you again-this time on your national television. I will do this just to let you know how blind and pathetic you really are!
THANK YOU AMERICA !'
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| | Wompus
Posts:634

 | | 10/07/2008 10:25 AM |
Alert | | Well said... but how many liberals will look at this as propaganda instead of the truth it really is? It makes me sad that such a great nation is being killed from within by liberals who want something for nothing and refuse common sense. Not that McCain is any savior, but he is MUCH better than Obama... again, so sad. | | | |
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| | ChimneyDuck
Posts:293

 | | 10/07/2008 10:47 AM |
Alert | | Um, if you don't think that is propaganda, I feel sorry for you. | | http://www.maricopabikeclub.com - Join us for a bicycle ride. | |
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| | corman
Posts:1383


 | | 10/07/2008 11:52 AM |
Alert | | The people that I feel sorry for......are all of the families that are being affected by the current fiasco we are going through.......AND people that are ignorant of the REAL historical facts, and the political BS, that back up the facts....people like you ChimneyDuck. | | | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:723

 | | 10/07/2008 12:13 PM |
Alert | | Not saying that all this will happen, but it still boggles the mind how people could fall for Obama's bs. I could see how some of this stuff happening could benefit our enemies, and the fact that many of our enemies and other countries who do not appear to like us actually support Obama as president should scare people. | | | |
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| | ChimneyDuck
Posts:293

 | | 10/07/2008 1:41 PM |
Alert | Ok, lets talk facts.
Opening statement. $700 billion?
2007 the US oil import bill came to $327 billion.
2008 should top $400 billion, but no where near $700 billion .
I've seen these figures elsewhere, but here is where I found it for my response. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2008_March_7/ai_n24380607
1) Normally oil Shale mining is very dirty process, open to the air and has the side effect of poisoning surrounding water. Since most of the US oil Shale is in the Arid west, any poisoning is going to make it down to population centers. There are companies that have permits to mine, but since it is so expensive, it's not a lucritive undertaking. Shell is researching a cheaper cleaner way to extract oil. http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081007/UPDATES01/81007018/1002/NEWS01
3) Not really any facts there. About the only alternative energy I know of that is regulated out of existance is Nuclear, though there are lots of other types of alternate energy that is progressing.
4) Bah, we are just saving our oil for when it gets expensive, then we can make some real money by selling it.
5) Can't argue with this one. Making fuel from corn is more idiotic than making sugar from corn.
6) Well someone has to hold our debt. I'd prefer that we'd balance our budget. But with another Trillion gone last week, my hopes are failing.
7) Um, yeah. I think you all know this is bs.
Closing statement is pure fear mongering.
There you go. An example of propaganda. Very light on facts, heavy on emotion, focused on a political goal that has little to do with the facts or emotional sentiments involved.
This is the definition of propaganda from Dictionary.Com: information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc. | | http://www.maricopabikeclub.com - Join us for a bicycle ride. | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446


 | | 10/07/2008 2:17 PM |
Alert | Praise Allah
Death to the Infidels | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886


 | | 10/07/2008 6:53 PM |
Alert | Posted By Wompus on 10/07/2008 10:25 AM
Well said... but how many liberals will look at this as propaganda instead of the truth it really is? It makes me sad that such a great nation is being killed from within by liberals who want something for nothing and refuse common sense. Not that McCain is any savior, but he is MUCH better than Obama... again, so sad.
Wompus, it seems you've been sad lately. Everything ok?
| | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886


 | | 10/07/2008 6:59 PM |
Alert | That's the biggest piece of S**T I've ever read on this site. It's sad that stuff like this has to be posted. It's sad that I'm living in McCain territory. It's sad that I cant move.... | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | Wompus
Posts:634

 | | 10/07/2008 9:07 PM |
Alert | | Whats stopping you from moving? I am sad that people are buying into the Obama bullsh!t. Why are you so thrilled at the prospect of socialism? | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886


 | | 10/07/2008 9:39 PM |
Alert | | Because I know it can work, if done right? What the heck do you know about? Have you lived in a socialist country before? | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | GuyPinestra
Posts:683


 | | 10/08/2008 4:23 AM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 10/07/2008 9:39 PM
Because I know it can work, if done right? What the heck do you know about? Have you lived in a socialist country before?
So tell me drummer, what socialist country have you lived in, and what made it better living there compared to living here?
| | "The seeds of self-destruction are sown in the shallowness of your mind." | |
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| | Wompus
Posts:634

 | | 10/08/2008 7:31 AM |
Alert | Wow drummer, I am glad you are finally saying what is on your mind. So you are admitting that Obama wants a socialist country and are hapy with that direction? OK.
No, I have not lived in a socialist country, California was pretty close but not quite. I am not one of those people that thinks in order to have an opinion on a subject that you have had to live it. But now that you have opened up a little, please tell us what socialist country you have lived in and then why you think socialism is a better model than the capitalist society that America was built on. Finally you have something interesting to say. | | | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446


 | | 10/08/2008 8:53 AM |
Alert | Are we talking about Socialism or Communism?
Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society. Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.
Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general. The communist movement has attempted to produce a communist society by setting up political parties, which in some cases have become governments. These attempts have never produced a communist society, and have frequently led to totalitarian states.
I like Feudalism........
Feudalism, a term first used in the early modern period (17th century), in its most classic sense refers to a Medieval Europe political system composed of a set of reciprocal legal and military obligations among the warrior nobility, revolving around the three key concepts of lords, vassals, and fiefs. It often occurs alongside Manorialism. Although derived from the Latin word feodum (fief), then in use, the term feudalism and the "system" it purports to describe were not conceived of as a formal political system by the people living in the Medieval Period. | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886


 | | 10/08/2008 11:59 AM |
Alert | Well, where do I start?
It was in 1992 that I befriended some danish tourists, while I was living in Chicago.
We remained in contact for a few years. I traveled back and forth to visit. With every visit, I grew fonder and fonder of denmark and grew more and more intolerant of the american way.
In 1994 I decided to move there and start a life in another country. It was very difficult, because I had to learn the language and adjust to their ways. I applied for temporary citizenship and in doing so, I was required to take danish lesson. This is something that should be inforced here(english, that is). Life was waaay laid back and no one worried about how they were going to make ends meet. People actually had time to enjoy life, instead of working 60 hours a week. I never had a car during my time living there. Making it nice to be not so dependent on gas to get around. People would be surprised how much weight you could lose, by not driving a car...lol.
Then I began working and paid about 45% in taxes. With these taxes, I was able to go to ANY doctor I chose and didn't have to wait weeks to see the Dr. Something you guys think they do. Once I got a grasp of the language, I went to school...something else that's free.
I was a furniture maker apprentice for a while, but cut it short to move back to america.
Other benefits - I was unemployed for about 7 months and received about 95% of my pay.
Free college, free childcare, 6 months maternity leave for the father and one year for the mother.
37 hour work week
5 weeks vacation
I never met one person that was unhappy with the socialistic ways that the government provided, never met anyone that could'nt pay their mortgage/rent and never met a homeless person. Unless you want to count all the drunk german tourists.
But, this was 8 years ago, because I left in 2000, making it a total of 6 years living there. It may be way different by now, no thanks to american influences all over the world.
I too thought it was going to be like living in russia, but I was mistaken. Socialism is better than you think, but do you guys think?.... Ok, time to google "denmark" and get some trash, fellas! | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446


 | | 10/08/2008 12:05 PM |
Alert | | Ukranian women are hot......... | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1203


 | | 10/08/2008 12:23 PM |
Alert | Drummer ...... If Denmark was so great, why are you back in the U.S. ? | | | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446


 | | 10/08/2008 12:34 PM |
Alert | | I would move to Italy.......... | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886


 | | 10/08/2008 12:49 PM |
Alert | Posted By Cactus Rob on 10/08/2008 12:23 PM Drummer ...... If Denmark was so great, why are you back in the U.S. ?
Congrats! You're the first one to say that!
Why I'm back has no importance to the thread. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | Wompus
Posts:634

 | | 10/08/2008 3:42 PM |
Alert | | America was not founded on a socialist model. If you don't like it's model then you should move back. Trying to "Change" America is not what the American people want. I wonder how many uneducated liberals/democrats look beyond Obama's rockstar image and know his "Plan". | | | |
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