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Reagan
Posts:745
 | | 09/03/2008 5:26 PM |
 Alert | The double standard is so funny. Let's look at Biden. Right after he first won his Senate seat, his family was in a horrible accident, killing his wife and one child, leaving the other 2 children in horrible medical condition. When he recovered he still accepted his Senate seat, working full time, and commuting to DC. He was an single parent, took on a huge political role, and yet we didn't hear one word that he should put his family first and step down from politics. That with his new role he would be leaving his children with the loss of both parents.
Then along comes a WOMEN that isn't a Democrat, has 5 children, and all Democrats want is her to be in the home? Are you that scared of her? Are you scared that she took on big oil? That she has an 80% approval record? That she as 2nd in command with limited experience BUT will still have more experience than your Commander in Chief? That she doesn't accept Pork Barrel Spending? Let's get down to the bottom of it. The Republicans have a new star, and the Democrats are showing their true colors. The party that was against Civil Rights and freeing Slaves is apparently against women as well! | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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| | Ringo
Posts:144
| | 09/03/2008 5:48 PM |
Alert | Posted By *rikimaru* on 09/03/2008 5:23 PM
so how come palin faithful are not commenting on her attempted recall petition when she was mayor of wasille or whatever its called? or how she left the town 20 mil in debt when she assumed the governors title? its funny that she is considered americana, yet somehow barack who worked his whole life to help the poor and less fortunate&didnt take the easy road, who worked in the illinois senate, then on to the united states senate, all of which took years btw to accomplish. Barack has ideals that will lead us out of the funk we have been in, ideals that will finally lift us back up to where we belong. 1st thing, universal healthcare: there is not reason why ANY american should be denied health coverage. if canada,england,france, germany, he...ll even costa rica, can provide its citizens with medical care than so can we. what a bunch of shull bit the idea of "big government" blah blah blah, look what the hands off approach republicans have brought with them the last 30 yrs (minus clintons 2 terms), of corporations,big oil&big insurance has done to the united states. do people in france or england or canada have to lose their homes because big insurance denies life threatening surgical procedures so they have to sell just so a loved one can survice, and are imore concerned with profit margins than citizens lives? no they do not, and neither should we.
why do americans accept lesser quality of life than say italians, or germans or frenchmen? because our goverment doesnt work for us, we work for them. in other countries, politicians know that if they dont take care of the people then they will be out of a job. but here in america, we are divided on stupid issues like abortion,gay rights etc. over there they dont have the religious zealots that we have here, they dont think piss...ant people are supposed to be God's representatives here on earth&as such they try to pass off their own morals on everyone else which is retarded.
all these divisive issues like palins daughter being pregnant, personal attacks on Barack saying he is a celebrity, etc are distracting Americans from the fact that our government has failed us. imo health care, utilities,education,police,military even oil should be socialized. i know that is a bad word to the right, but think about it. when profit is the motivation behind any vital service, then the peoples interest are not served, just shareholders&CEOs profits are what is important. how many americans have to die because they cant afford health insurance before its not Me Me Me, instead its We We We. how about we rise together, and fall together. whats so hard about that? oh and dont say "well i dont want my taxes paying for somebody else who dont work, i care for my family and thats it" that is so stupid. my taxes&my families taxes help provide education,police,fire& other services for not only our children, but my neighbors&communities kids already so that argument goes right out the window. the problem is $$$&lobbyists need to get booted out the door in washington, let the peoples needs be met cuz we are what make this country run, not politicians. I can understand most of what you are saying. But why do we want the government to control what we give and how we help. As a country we are sworn to help each other, with NO government intervention. Why now do we need the government to help us. We have helped are selves for years, so much so that the young are lazy. | |
The bailout is wrong. We should not do it. My God this is the stupidest idea ever. Bush is stupid if he signs this. But he has done other stupid things | |
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| | buzzymom
Posts:43
| | 09/03/2008 6:28 PM |
Alert | | We need to really realize what kind of world we are living in. Americans live in a way that very few on this globe live. We have so much that we are spoiled, we have no idea what is going on on a global scale. 9/11 was the first indication of the reality of things. There are still a lot of extreme people who wish nothing better than to destory the US and kill as many of us as possible. I'm all for women's rights but when it comes to this fight I'm not interested in a former beauty beauty queen heading this country. What is she going to bring to the table on global reform? McCain picked who would help him win the ticket, NOT who was qualifed. As for me pushing women back to the kitchen, PLEASE. I want someone that knows how to deal with extreme people, and the extreme situation in the Middle East, NOT a hockey mom. I need someone fully engaged in what is going on, not someone thorn between issues of security and her children's issues. Honestly, I don't feel either potential Presidents really has what we need in this country right now. America is quickly becoming a former super power, I have yet to hear what either of these groups will do to change that. | | | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:723
| | 09/03/2008 6:38 PM |
Alert | ....and you're for Obama why? I wish we had better candidates to choose from, but we don't. McCain/Palin will be far better at handling many issues than the inexperienced, naive Obama. Biden does have experience, but one out of two is not a great ticket. and please, give an example of who *you* think would be more qualified than Palin. I'm curious. | | | |
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| | Ringo
Posts:144
| | 09/03/2008 6:46 PM |
Alert | America is quickly becoming a former super power, I have yet to hear what either of these groups will do to change that. How so? Please tell me why!! | |
The bailout is wrong. We should not do it. My God this is the stupidest idea ever. Bush is stupid if he signs this. But he has done other stupid things | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:723
| | 09/03/2008 6:49 PM |
Alert | | Wow, I didn't even catch that line...that's the funniest thing I've heard all week. | | | |
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|  | drummer72
Posts:3886
| | 09/03/2008 9:05 PM |
Alert | Posted By thick on 09/03/2008 1:37 PM
Drummer, do you ever have anything to say about politics beyond stupid one-liners and soundbytes? Surely you must have an opinion on Palin besides she's "junk" or on Obama besides he's "change?" I may disagree with other Democrats on these boards, but at least they're saying something. Who knows, maybe you'll offer up a point of view some of us have never considered before? Truthfuly, Palin seem alright as a person. But her values are no where near mine. I believe in abortion and the right for a woman to choose. I think hunting is pointless, unless you're starving and have no money to get a burger at McDonalds. I can honestly care less about her daughters "mistake". | |
"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | thick
Posts:652
| | 09/03/2008 10:19 PM |
Alert | | Thank you Drummer. Please continue having fun now. | | | |
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| | kenmoreguy72
Posts:223
| | 09/03/2008 11:12 PM |
Alert | Reagan..
Agreed, but all politics nowadays is a double standard.
We here that Palin is experienced from the right, but Rove was just cracking on possible VP candidate Tim Kaine because of his inexperience...
"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years. He's been able but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done ... [Kaine] was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa, or Gilbert, Arizona; North Las Vegas, or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town."
Now, Palin, governor of a town of 7,000 is qualified?
I could go on for a long time about McCain, Palin and the righties about all of the double standars, but this is nothing new in politics.
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| | thick
Posts:652
| | 09/03/2008 11:24 PM |
Alert | | Last check, Palin's the governor of the State of Alaska, about 700,000 constituents. | | | |
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| | kenmoreguy72
Posts:223
| | 09/04/2008 12:03 AM |
Alert | | Yeah, mayor of 7,000, governor of 700,000, whatever. I think you got the point thick. | | | |
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| | asugrl
Posts:723
| | 09/04/2008 12:56 AM |
Alert | | I'm not sure where the confusion lies...she is the governor right now of a state with 700,000 people, not a mayor of a city. Also, I can't say much about Kaine, but I think most people admire Palin for what she has gotten done, even if it was in a decently short period of time. If she sat on her haunches for 2 years as governor, then I don't think she'd have such strong support. | | | |
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| | jhall
Posts:1351
| | 09/04/2008 7:24 AM |
Alert | How's this for double standard...
Obama is the media's poster boy | |
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 09/04/2008 7:54 AM |
Alert | | Palin gave a great speech, and was looking kinda hot. Of course, just like the other side, she never got into the details of what "changes" the Republicans propose. Still waiting to hear what anyone says about illegal immigration. Let's see what McCain says tonight. Sounded like we get a third war with the Georgian talk, more trillions in debt if that happens. | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | camerual
Posts:29
| | 09/04/2008 8:21 AM |
Alert | | It's fascinating that this election looks like it's more of a civil war. It's also amazing that people are being swayed and convinced to vote for someone who is virtually unknown and who has limited experience. Now keep in mind that you are being swayed by the media and a speech that was written FOR and not BY her. Did they overlook (or intentionally with hold) Barack's experience more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed? Although a bad representation of either a Republican or Democrat, I especially loved the soccer mom from Michigan who said she'd vote for Palin (even before the speech) simply because they had something in common~ they were both soccer moms and that takes a lot of dedication~ being a soccer mom qualifies her to step in and manage our Nation? Assuming that her household is the Nation, she is president and her husband is vice president (Or vice-versa)~ IS it run well? | | | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 09/04/2008 8:42 AM |
Alert | Posted By camerual on 09/04/2008 8:21 AM
It's fascinating that this election looks like it's more of a civil war. It's also amazing that people are being swayed and convinced to vote for someone who is virtually unknown and who has limited experience. Now keep in mind that you are being swayed by the media and a speech that was written FOR and not BY her. Did they overlook (or intentionally with hold) Barack's experience more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed? Although a bad representation of either a Republican or Democrat, I especially loved the soccer mom from Michigan who said she'd vote for Palin (even before the speech) simply because they had something in common~ they were both soccer moms and that takes a lot of dedication~ being a soccer mom qualifies her to step in and manage our Nation? Assuming that her household is the Nation, she is president and her husband is vice president (Or vice-versa)~ IS it run well?
It's gonna be a down and dirty war, where the American people lose either way. There should be an Independent convention. That would be awesome. We all show up drunk and naked, hating on everyone. J/K
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"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | camerual
Posts:29
| | 09/04/2008 8:47 AM |
Alert | I'm with you Jason!! Naked, drunk, dance party!! We could be the Rep's & Dem's or the Bloods & Crips!!
My husband (how embarrassing) wants to change his politicalparty, because he said that the Republican women ar HOT . . . and Gov. Palin adds to that ticket!! | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645
| | 09/04/2008 9:36 AM |
Alert | Well, we are hot! So sorry about that!
The only thing I have against Palin is that she stole my thunder. That was supposed to be me in 20 yrs. Oh well.
Buzzymom, I can't believe what you have said about her needing to take care of her kids. Can't her husband do that? Just like Michelle Obama and all the other wives take care of their HUSBAND'S kids? I have NEVER sympathized with the feminist side but I really am amazed at how she is being blasted for wanting to serve the country while having young children. I'm sure my mom is saying the exact same thing about her. The only thing my mom ever told me I could be was a good wife and mother. It has taken Sarah Palin, a stranger, to inspire me and prove to me that I can do anything I want AND be a wife and mom. It makes me sick to hear the LIBERALS of all people set women back to the Pre-Sufferage era....I don't get it. | |
Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | Reagan
Posts:745
| | 09/04/2008 10:01 AM |
Alert | Posted By camerual on 09/04/2008 8:21 AM
It's fascinating that this election looks like it's more of a civil war. It's also amazing that people are being swayed and convinced to vote for someone who is virtually unknown and who has limited experience. Now keep in mind that you are being swayed by the media and a speech that was written FOR and not BY her. Did they overlook (or intentionally with hold) Barack's experience more than two decades ago, where he worked with people who had lost jobs and been left behind when the local steel plants closed? Although a bad representation of either a Republican or Democrat, I especially loved the soccer mom from Michigan who said she'd vote for Palin (even before the speech) simply because they had something in common~ they were both soccer moms and that takes a lot of dedication~ being a soccer mom qualifies her to step in and manage our Nation? Assuming that her household is the Nation, she is president and her husband is vice president (Or vice-versa)~ IS it run well?
Ok, name one politician that write their own speeches. That is the best critism that you can come up with is that she didn't write her own speech? You think Obama and Biden wrote their own speeches?
Second, you think that the media is helping her out? From the "media" this week I heard that her youngest child isn't really hers, that its her daughters. (FALSE) I heard that she had an affair (ALSO FALSE) I heard that McCain didn't know about her daughters pregnacy (FALSE- the entire town where they live knew she was pregnant). Third- its funny that you want to say that she has no experience. And that you are worried that if something happens to McCain that she won't be ready. Your candiate has NO experience, never been executive of anything, never done anything worth a dime. He has been a lawmaker for 4 years now, is 1 of 100 Senators that have the exclusive oppurtunity to write laws and make changes, but decided to wait until he is President to enact some sort of "change" yet had no idea or drive to do so over the last 4 years. You liberals never seem to amaze me. Keep them coming, its so funny watching you guys fall apart. | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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| | CleanuptheCopa
Posts:91
| | 09/04/2008 11:46 AM |
Alert | Riki,
I am afraid you are kidding yourself if you believe Obama can or will fix half of the issues facing our country today. Universal healthcare systems such as what Canada or England and France have will likely never happen in the US and here's why..The insurance industry is the largest and strongest lobby in our history. Think about it, insurance companies tell you who can and cant drive, who can and cant work for you, what medical procedures you can or cant have and basically have control over many things Americans can or cant do. Insurance companies are also very heavily invested in our countries financial markets. The government may pass legislation against insurance companies forcing them to clean up their act some but the simple fact is if the US government ever tries to dictate policy to insurance companies then it will fail and most likely lead to a financial crumble in our country. | | | |
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