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hastings1066User is Offline

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09/03/2008 2:35 PM Alert 

As the first serious (with a real chance of winning) woman candidate for the presidency, Hillary deserves a lot of credit for opening the door for Palin and other women down the road. If Obama does not win, think about the campaign in four years. The two front runners could very well be Clinton and Palin (considering McCain's age). What a change that will be.

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09/03/2008 2:40 PM Alert 
As the first serious (with a real chance of winning) woman candidate for the presidency, Hillary deserves a lot of credit for opening the door for Palin and other women down the road. If Obama does not win, think about the campaign in four years. The two front runners could very well be Clinton and Palin (considering McCain's age). What a change that will be.


Ugh you are too serious right now... LOL

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09/03/2008 3:52 PM Alert 
Bill Clinton should have an affair with Palin, wouldn't that be a great news story?

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09/03/2008 4:28 PM Alert 
Posted By GuyPinestra on 09/03/2008 1:47 PM
Actually, I'm kinda glad that all the Obamaniacs are making such a big deal about this, it vividly demonstrates how petty and shallow they can get. All this judgment going on, you'd think it was the end of the world, LITERALLY!



It seems to me that it's the media fanning the flames -- and that's much more about money than politics.  Scandal sells, after all.

Obama and Biden both stated, unequivocally, that children are off-limits.  Every candidate has his or her lunatic fringe, but most Dems I know aren't so much condemning the Palins as they are commenting on the irony of the situation.  Governor Palin is opposed to sex education, promotes abstinence only and is running on a socially conservative/family values platform.  While I compliment her on her adherence to her pro-life convictions, it's a little ironic to hear her preach the effectiveness of abstinence only when her 17 year-old daughter is pregnant.  I think it's wonderful that Bristol Palin has the support system to keep and raise her baby.  Unfortunately, not all girls in her situation do.


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09/03/2008 4:44 PM Alert 
It is ironic and I wish she didn't only promote abstinence. My opinion is that it's unrealistic and ineffective. Kids and young adults (even old adults!) are gonna screw. Best that they be safe, IMO.

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09/03/2008 5:07 PM Alert 
I agree.
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09/03/2008 5:12 PM Alert 
Posted By AzSandSlinger on 09/03/2008 12:56 PM
I would hardly consider this "gossip".. as it is based in facts..

.. and as for Bristol Palin being a household name.. Her mother decided to bring her into the fray by accepting the VP nomination.. what candidate in their right mind would believe that their personal life would remain personal after that nomination?

You want to place blame on the exposure of Bristol Palin's pregnancy? I place it squarely on the head of her mother.. a mother who was selfish enough to be willing to expose her pregnant teen in order to further her personal career...

as for role models.. who's a better female role model? a pregnant teenage singer? or a female VP with a pregnant teen?


-Shane

Give me a break. I honestly hope you never decide to put yourself in any spotlight whatsoever, because you probably have some family member who screwed up somewhere. And are you serious about your last comment? Did Chelsea Clinton or the Bush daughters EVER have a huge presence in the media (besides scrutinizing their behavior?).

Maybe being younger, I have more of an idea than you do about who kids listen to. Here's a hint: it is NOT anyone in politics of any kind. No girl I know wanted to be like Chesea, Jenna, Barbara, etc. growing up. They wanted to be Britney, Jessica, Lindsay Lohan, etc., and now many younger girls idolize Hanna Montana, Jamie Lynn, etc. Most girls probably still have not heard of Bristol Palin, and unless she comes out with a record or hot music video anytime soon, they won't give a hoot what she does.

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09/03/2008 5:16 PM Alert 
Posted By Marni on 09/03/2008 1:01 PM
Wow, that's an assumption right there. First of all, I never said anything about Lynne Spears. I don't even care about that whole "scandal."However, a lot of girls did look up to that girl (whatever her name is). She was an entertainer, a path she chose.


Whoa. When did he even say anything about you saying anything about Lynn Spears? So who is assuming?

Again, a pregnant teen is a pregnant teen. I know teen make mistakes and I am sure she will have great support from her family. I was pointing out the hypocrisy amongst those who accept this pregnancy. However, when another teen gets pregnant, they demand she be kicked off the network and the family gets raked over the coals.

And I was pointing out that not everyone does do that. I know I never have. I couldn't care less which media "darling" gets knocked up, unless it's my favorite actress perhaps.

And read his post; he did mention Spears' mother. You must have missed it:

"It seems the same people who were outraged, and attacked Lynne Spears for being "a horrible example" and a disgrace for a mother.. are much the same people who are commending Palin?"

He is suggesting that all the same people who attacked Spears for getting pregnant are now defending Palin, and that is not necessarily true. I would like to see some proof of that.

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09/03/2008 7:29 PM Alert 
And I was pointing out that not everyone does do that. I know I never have. I couldn't care less which media "darling" gets knocked up, unless it's my favorite actress perhaps.
And read his post; he did mention Spears' mother. You must have missed it:
"It seems the same people who were outraged, and attacked Lynne Spears for being "a horrible example" and a disgrace for a mother.. are much the same people who are commending Palin?"
He is suggesting that all the same people who attacked Spears for getting pregnant are now defending Palin, and that is not necessarily true. I would like to see some proof of that.


I brought up the Spears family. In which he in turn mentioned Lynn Spears. I have already pulled the transcripts from Glenn Beck on Family Values, from when the teen Spears became pregnant. I am waiting for the transcripts to go up from him talking about the teenage Palin that became pregnant. They were shed in two different lights. He even talks of the mother needing more presence in the home.

How many people were outraged that Juno made it to the box office?

It is a double standard. Sure she didn't abort, good for her, but how about being realistic and back sex education? Proof is in her home that abstinence only education fails. Birth control fails too, however, maybe this poor girl wouldn't be scrutinzed publicly if mommy and daddy taught something other than abstinence. Yes, I do know we agree on that abstinence only doesn't always work.

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09/03/2008 7:46 PM Alert 
It seems to me that it's the media fanning the flames -- and that's much more about money than politics. Scandal sells, after all.
Obama and Biden both stated, unequivocally, that children are off-limits. Every candidate has his or her lunatic fringe, but most Dems I know aren't so much condemning the Palins as they are commenting on the irony of the situation. Governor Palin is opposed to sex education, promotes abstinence only and is running on a socially conservative/family values platform. While I compliment her on her adherence to her pro-life convictions, it's a little ironic to hear her preach the effectiveness of abstinence only when her 17 year-old daughter is pregnant. I think it's wonderful that Bristol Palin has the support system to keep and raise her baby. Unfortunately, not all girls in her situation do.


Correct, I am not bashing the Palins. I kinda like her. It won't make me vote for the ticket, but I kinda like her. I am only pointing out the irony and the double standards.

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09/04/2008 10:58 AM Alert 
"The thing is, if you're a strong conservative with religious values, how is it acceptable?
Isn't it the "republican" thing to do, to follow the bible literally?"

Drummer, do you have children? Do you have experience with raising teenage children? Enlighten us to your experience.
I'm a strong conservative, not a Republican. I choose not to judge, lest I be judged. I have raised two children. I attempted to give them values that benefit themselves and society. One learned well from those values, the other did not. I love them both, it is not my place to judge, it is my place to teach. There are many posting crap about the raising of children, I suspect the crap comes from inexperience, in the world, and as parents. Yes, there are too many 'celebrity' behaviors being flaunted to our children, the Hiltons, Spears, ad nauseum. Parents really have their work cut out in raising a child who will be beneficial to society these days. Ms. Palin is no different than the rest of us, her pregnant daughter is no different than any other pregnant daughter in this world. The fools standing ready to judge are the only difference. By the way, I think that following man made, man regulated religion, is not necessarily following the Bible. Follow God, follow Jesus Christ, that works better for me. It's my faith, your mileage may vary, it's a free country.
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09/04/2008 11:08 AM Alert 
I completely missed drummer saying that. So drummer, you think being republican is synonymous with being Christian? i wonder if Michael Savage, Debbie Schlussel, Ron Silver and a host of other non-Christians would feel about your comment. Actually they wouldn't care. I just find it oh so liberal of you to make that generalization.
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09/04/2008 11:36 AM Alert 
Posted By speken on 09/03/2008 9:38 AM
Raging hormones? Maybe someone should poke you and make sure that you are not dead.


You are a jerk. Did you see the smiley face at the end? It was sarcastic, but I am sorry you could not figure that out.

The Spears girls are differant in that they have been paraded if front of young girls as role models. They said they would be abstinent until they were married. I know Sarah Palin supports abstinence education. Now she has first hand knowledge that abstinence education still needs to be balanced with birth control and std education. This is one of my problems with republicans that can not stand up to the bible belt.

If her daughter was doing interviews about how she is perfect and no sex and no partying, then yes feed the daughter to the scandal loving media. Otherwise the daughter should be off limits to the media, same as all of the othr children of politicians.


You are a jerk. Did you see the smiley face at the end? It was sarcastic, but I am sorry you could not figure that out.

 

Are you for real...

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09/04/2008 12:06 PM Alert 
“I am going to teach them first about values and morals, but if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby."

So, my grand-daughter, born to my unwed Son, she is a "mistake", a "punishment". What would you, as President, like to see done with these "mistakes", these "punishments"??
I didn't trust you before, I certainly don't trust you now!! My grand-daughter is no mistake, nor is she a "punishment". You know what part of my anatomy needs kissin' Barack Hussein Obama, those two cheeks to the rear. Now get to it fool !!!
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09/04/2008 11:08 PM Alert 
Posted By Wompus on 09/04/2008 11:08 AM
I completely missed drummer saying that. So drummer, you think being republican is synonymous with being Christian? i wonder if Michael Savage, Debbie Schlussel, Ron Silver and a host of other non-Christians would feel about your comment. Actually they wouldn't care. I just find it oh so liberal of you to make that generalization.


It's okay; we know for a fact that dummer is either atheist or Jewish, as all liberals are one or the other. It's a fact.

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09/04/2008 11:15 PM Alert 
Posted By Marni on 09/03/2008 7:29 PM
And I was pointing out that not everyone does do that. I know I never have. I couldn't care less which media "darling" gets knocked up, unless it's my favorite actress perhaps.
And read his post; he did mention Spears' mother. You must have missed it:
"It seems the same people who were outraged, and attacked Lynne Spears for being "a horrible example" and a disgrace for a mother.. are much the same people who are commending Palin?"
He is suggesting that all the same people who attacked Spears for getting pregnant are now defending Palin, and that is not necessarily true. I would like to see some proof of that.


I brought up the Spears family. In which he in turn mentioned Lynn Spears. I have already pulled the transcripts from Glenn Beck on Family Values, from when the teen Spears became pregnant. I am waiting for the transcripts to go up from him talking about the teenage Palin that became pregnant. They were shed in two different lights. He even talks of the mother needing more presence in the home.

How many people were outraged that Juno made it to the box office?

It is a double standard. Sure she didn't abort, good for her, but how about being realistic and back sex education? Proof is in her home that abstinence only education fails. Birth control fails too, however, maybe this poor girl wouldn't be scrutinzed publicly if mommy and daddy taught something other than abstinence. Yes, I do know we agree on that abstinence only doesn't always work.


Well, I agree that people who said the Spears baby and Juno were wrong should say the same about the Palins. The fact is, though, that I never said that, and I don't even know that more Republicans said that than liberals. That's what I take issue with. The approval or disapproval of a pregnancy is NOT a party issue. It is a personal one, so I don't know why you brought it up in this thread. In fact, many people I know (that also happen to be conservative) liked Juno because she didn't kill her baby; she took responsibility for her actions. But again, I am sure a lot of Democrats liked the movie, as well, so it is not a partisan issue.

And honestly, I am sure this "poor" Palin girl knew a little something about contraception. She is 17, and most likely has friends. You have to be pretty sheltered to not know anything about it at 17. My parents chose to keep me out of sex ed, and I ended up learning from my friends and the internet. Apparently it has worked, but I still think we need to emphasize abstinence but teach about contraception. I do draw the line at handing out free condoms at a high school, though....

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