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| | Author | Messages | |
MaricopaKen
Posts:144
 | | 08/25/2008 12:21 AM |
 Alert | Republicans have received the vast majority of all monies contributed by Oil and Gas concerns for the last twenty years. McCain's "experience" includes his vote to end fuel efficiency standards in 2003 for the American auto industry and a vote to give tax credits of up to $100,000.00 for the purchase of low milage vehicles. This is not name calling, just the facts. Fuel guzzling cars are the main reason America's Auto Industry is nearly bankrupt! Please check his voting record and you will see what kind of "exerience "he has and who benefitted from it! It was not the American people! When it comes to energy policies McCain and Bush are as bad as the drug pushers maybe worse. As Bush said in his State of the Union speech "America is addicted to oil!" yet all they want to do is increase the supply and kill any alternatives. People, remember this when you go to cast your vote for the Grand Oil Party! Who do they really represent.... http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=E01 <script type="text/javascript">
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| Election Cycle |
Rank† |
Total Contributions |
Contributions from Individuals |
Contributions from PACs |
Soft Money Contributions |
Donations to Democrats |
Donations to Republicans |
% to Dems |
% to Repubs |
| 2008* |
16 |
$19,780,647 |
$13,900,147 |
$5,880,500 |
N/A |
$5,042,825 |
$14,729,299 |
25% |
74% |
| 2006* |
14 |
$20,226,307 |
$11,862,548 |
$8,363,759 |
N/A |
$3,576,445 |
$16,570,858 |
18% |
82% |
| 2004* |
16 |
$25,910,020 |
$18,795,772 |
$7,114,248 |
N/A |
$5,038,585 |
$20,847,570 |
19% |
80% |
| 2002 |
13 |
$25,006,438 |
$8,458,919 |
$6,450,281 |
$10,097,238 |
$5,018,530 |
$19,978,013 |
20% |
80% |
| 2000 |
10 |
$34,200,351 |
$11,232,358 |
$6,928,043 |
$16,039,950 |
$7,031,606 |
$26,661,126 |
21% |
78% |
| 1998 |
8 |
$21,584,252 |
$6,306,203 |
$6,767,892 |
$8,510,157 |
$5,015,213 |
$16,488,442 |
23% |
76% |
| 1996 |
7 |
$25,937,474 |
$9,550,491 |
$6,540,583 |
$9,846,400 |
$5,942,027 |
$19,569,150 |
23% |
75% |
| 1994 |
7 |
$17,712,863 |
$6,700,872 |
$6,492,029 |
$4,519,962 |
$6,643,277 |
$11,048,141 |
38% |
62% |
| 1992 |
7 |
$20,576,972 |
$8,830,122 |
$6,462,523 |
$5,284,327 |
$6,906,472 |
$13,487,397 |
34% |
66% |
| 1990 |
8 |
$10,908,564 |
$4,826,340 |
$6,082,224 |
N/A |
$4,161,315 |
$6,746,949 |
38% |
62% |
| Total |
10 |
$221,843,888 |
$100,463,772 |
$67,082,082 |
$54,298,034 |
$54,376,295 |
$166,126,945 |
25% |
75% |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3446
| | 08/25/2008 7:39 AM |
Alert | | Money talks, and Allah is very persuasive when he slips you a million for your campaigns........ | |
"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1203
| | 08/25/2008 9:54 AM |
Alert | MaricopaKen .... Study Obama's proposals and think about our nearly 10 TRILLION dollar deficit before you cast your vote in November. Thanks in advance! | | | |
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| | MaricopaKen
Posts:144
| | 08/26/2008 12:02 PM |
Alert | | Thanks Cactus Rob! I will. | | | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1203
| | 08/26/2008 12:47 PM |
Alert | 
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| | Dweezil
Posts:73
| | 08/26/2008 2:19 PM |
Alert | The Holy Democrats still took the 5+ million though right? (using your statistics) Who are they beholden to then?
I know, let's do away with the oil companies today. Make it so tough they can't operate at all.
That'll teach Bush that bastage! When we can't fly or drive and become a third world country that'll show them! Then we will all be on the same level, man. Like it should be. Yeah and then we'll tax the heck outta those rich oil guys to pay for our groceries, man.
Oh but wait. We can't do that because we put them outta business. Aw man we didn't think ahead. We got all caught up in all that hatred, man.
Yeah and that devil Bush, man. Those last two years of his like, reign, man. What happened? We were doing so good. Man we should have like controlled congress those last two years and fixed everything man.
Oh well back to watching TV. Who controls TV? | | | |
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|  | downfall
Posts:133
| | 08/26/2008 3:08 PM |
Alert | You talk like oil is a bad thing | |
"The price for conducting foreign policy on the basis of abstract principles is the impossibility of distinguishing among individual cases" | |
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| | leehopper
Posts:146
| | 08/26/2008 8:43 PM |
Alert | I also own BIG OIL stocks, and do many other americans, are we all bad people? | |
Live today like no one else,
so that tomorrow
you can live like no one else | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3886
| | 08/26/2008 10:49 PM |
Alert | Posted By Dweezil on 08/26/2008 2:19 PM
The Holy Democrats still took the 5+ million though right? (using your statistics) Who are they beholden to then?
I know, let's do away with the oil companies today. Make it so tough they can't operate at all.
That'll teach Bush that bastage! When we can't fly or drive and become a third world country that'll show them! Then we will all be on the same level, man. Like it should be. Yeah and then we'll tax the heck outta those rich oil guys to pay for our groceries, man.
Oh but wait. We can't do that because we put them outta business. Aw man we didn't think ahead. We got all caught up in all that hatred, man.
Yeah and that devil Bush, man. Those last two years of his like, reign, man. What happened? We were doing so good. Man we should have like controlled congress those last two years and fixed everything man.
Oh well back to watching TV. Who controls TV? Like dude, you're a retard. | |
"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:1011
| | 08/27/2008 8:42 PM |
Alert | I remember a Prof in my public speaking and debate class who said that "The first to resort to personal insult has admitted the loss of the debate". | | | |
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| | calievo1
Posts:32
| | 08/27/2008 9:15 PM |
Alert | | From what we all know, pretty much both presidential candidates have many proposals that will cost the country billions, which is okay since money is necessary to run America. What is guaranteed is that whatever Bush did, McCain will too. If you all agree with what Bush did in office then vote McCain! I for sure ain't. | | | |
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| | MaricopaKen
Posts:144
| | 08/27/2008 9:40 PM |
Alert | | I was just looking at the numbers for 2006 in the chart above and I just had a revelation! The Oil companies gave Republicans 82% of all their money and only 18% to the Democratic candidates. Yet the American people saw through it and voted more Democrats into office!!! There is hope for our country! The American people let the Oil companies know it's not for sale! Maybe that's why the price of energy is so high now, kind of a payback???? | | | |
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| | Dweezil
Posts:73
| | 08/27/2008 10:16 PM |
Alert | My goodness Ken. Yeah the oil companies are paying us back. Wow. Maybe it's the DEMOCRAT controlled congress doing nothing but going on vacation.....
I wonder why JoeBama hasn't gotten a bump form his VP selection and his coronation? Maybe because the american people saw through the paper candidate and people like you and Cal. All you can do is say McCain is just Bush again.
You couldn't be more off. Most people I know will vote for McCain even though is is about as opposite as Bush as the Republican party has. It isn't that we love McCain, it's that we see Obama for what he is, or rather say, for what he isn't.
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| | Pepperdog
Posts:233
| | 08/28/2008 1:29 AM |
Alert | You know oil copmanies made record profits....guess what...they also paid record taxes too. More money for politicians to spend....They are good at that, spending money....Funny thing though, I owned a business and there were 2 parties, one who wanted to tax my profits, after taxing me to begin with, limit my ability to gather resources, limit my ability to produce my product and then tax my product at every level of production and distribution higher than any other product out there.....I would not give that party campaign donations....go figure....what a dope.....
You want to lower gas prices? Flood the market with product. Pump more oil, build more refineries, limit the restrictions on the different types of gasoline that have to be produced. That will lower pricies.....it won't lower the approx 25% taxes you pay for gas but it will lower the rest of it.....Now what party stands in the way of all of that? It is the Democrats, why? Because their goal is to drive up the price so high as to create a revolt amoungst the public and have government take over the industry. Why? Becasue it is allready the biggest cash cow the government has ever had and they want to squeeze more out of it. See Democrat leaders don't mind high gas prices....they just mind that there are private businesses who make a profit from it. Now if you owned an oil company why would you give any money to people who want to put you out of business.
I do like how you only decided to research gas companies....What about trial lawyers? Wonder how much they are giving and to whom? Who do the Dems really represent?
Haha...let's use your own site and see.....
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=K&goButt2.x=10&goButt2.y=5
Oohhh, looky there...lawyers give FIVE TIMES the amount of oil companies and 70% to Democrats....and we all know what a litigious county we have become, now you know who to thank....Any wonder the democrats in congress have a lower approval rating than Bush?...Now THAT's hard to do....that takes some work....
Give it up Ken....this is just another of your poorly written, poorly researched attempts at propaganda....
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Anyone who advocates a "one" world government, a "one" social order, or a "one" enviroment is a communist trying to take away your freedoms. Nature celebrates diversity! | |
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| | gtssmg4
Posts:3
| | 08/28/2008 6:50 AM |
Alert | Let's see, if I was an oil company making a 7% profit, paying the government a 16% tax on each gallon I sold at the pump, and not only that, but I pay 39% income tax on the profit when I take dividends from my company, would I really WANT to "Donate" to a democrat who has said they want to "redistribute the obscene ??profits??" I supposedly make?
Not to mention all the accountant and lawyer fees I have to pay to try and keep some profits for my investors who, incidentally, have to pay taxes on the profit they make also?
Now, let's talk about R & D...no, wait a minute we can't do that, the environmentalists have us in court over that! What won't they do to get their hands on our obscene profits! JEEZ!
Face it, if you sell a lot of product (in 2006 it was 38,600,000 gallons per DAY!) you will make a lot of money, just not a lot of profit because of all the hands that are in there pulling out their "fair" share.
And the Democrats aren't satisfied, they want more of it. Instead of getting it the old fashioned way, investing and working hard, they will just take it and redistribute it as they see fit. I hate to point this out, but you as a low to middle class person will not get a check in the mail from your Democrat, nope... you will instead get another layer of government waste, tons of paperwork to fill out, get told which doctors are on your plan or which lawyers you can see, and you will merrily say OK.
If you want to control your own destiny, don't put it in the hands of your favorite Democrat! Work for your own destiny, you will find it much more rewarding.
Vote this coming Sept 2nd and then on Nov 4th or you can just just zip the pie hole and send all your money to the Dems who will distribute it equally to all of us. Yeah, right!
I am voting for Gene Chewning for Congressional District 7, we need a fiscal conservative in office from this area, and he has a great energy plan, too! | |
"Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged."
Ronald Reagan | |
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| | MaricopaKen
Posts:144
| | 08/28/2008 7:19 AM |
Alert | Hey Pepperdog,
I understand market principles. You're right about the principle. When you have more in the market place of a product the prices is driven down right? Well the opposite is true, scarcity drives prices up. Why then would a company, want to flood the market when they can make a product scarce? They would be cutting their profits wouldn't they? There are only a hand full of oil companies and they all seem to be on the same page. Am I wrong? | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:1011
| | 08/28/2008 11:24 AM |
Alert | Posted By MaricopaKen on 08/28/2008 7:19 AM Hey Pepperdog,
I understand market principles. You're right about the principle. When you have more in the market place of a product the prices is driven down right? Well the opposite is true, scarcity drives prices up. Why then would a company, want to flood the market when they can make a product scarce? They would be cutting their profits wouldn't they? There are only a hand full of oil companies and they all seem to be on the same page. Am I wrong?
Yes you are. Look at the record. the oil cos want to drill for more oil in the US. The Dem party has been in the forefront of those putting up road blocks to new exploration in the US. On another thread you blamed the Republicans for higher oil prices , but you support Democrats who prevent more drilling that would lower prices. You have a tendency to allow your partisan political feelings to override your logic. | | | |
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| | LeonPotter
Posts:653
| | 08/28/2008 11:47 AM |
Alert | Posted By gtssmg4 on 08/28/2008 6:50 AM
Let's see, if I was an oil company making a 7% profit, paying the government a 16% tax on each gallon I sold at the pump, and not only that, but I pay 39% income tax on the profit when I take dividends from my company, would I really WANT to "Donate" to a democrat who has said they want to "redistribute the obscene ??profits??" I supposedly make?
For clarification, the max income tax rate is 35% for corporations and personal income taxes. Currently,the max dividend tax rate is 15% for qualified dividends. Dividends from US companies qualify for the qualified dividend rate.
Obama has proposed to allow Bush tax laws to expire. He has proposed to have a qualified dividend & capital gain tax rate increase to at least 20% up to ,I believe, 28% McCain has proposed to extend the tax laws for qual dividends and cap gains to futue years and reduce the max corporate income tax rate from 35% to 25%. | |
My answer WAS "NO" to Q#5 and Q#1.
Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender. | |
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| | LeonPotter
Posts:653
| | 08/28/2008 11:56 AM |
Alert | Posted By MaricopaKen on 08/28/2008 7:19 AM Hey Pepperdog,
I understand market principles. You're right about the principle. When you have more in the market place of a product the prices is driven down right? Well the opposite is true, scarcity drives prices up. Why then would a company, want to flood the market when they can make a product scarce? They would be cutting their profits wouldn't they? There are only a hand full of oil companies and they all seem to be on the same page. Am I wrong?
On the surface, you have a point. However, there is profit motive for others, too. If prices go up, this adds more competition to the market place, ie more suppliers. Profit motive invites others into the market place. Competition keeps the one's in the market place on toes to continue to survive. There is always a company that can overtake another company. There are countless instances where once thought stable companies no longer exist are are in the brink of extinction.
So to limit suppy would seem to have the effect of increasing profits, but overall more competion comes and supply is increased. Equilibrium is a strong force | |
My answer WAS "NO" to Q#5 and Q#1.
Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender. | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:1011
| | 08/28/2008 12:28 PM |
Alert | Using the same site that Ken used, I found that from 1990 to 2008 the Government Employees Union gave $39 million (98%) to Dems and about 1/2 million to Reps. In the same time period the trial lawyers lobby gave $26 million to Dems (90%) and $2.7 million to Reps. Do you wonder why tort reform never goes anywhere? To ask ken's question, who do those Dems represent. What do the government employees get from the Dems for their $39 million. Whatever it is , I bet that we, the taxpayers , pay for it. See Ken, we can all play that game. 
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