Posted By kenmoreguy72 on 07/14/2008 8:14 AM
George could be saying "I told you so??"

That is about par for him. The story that is in this post is Canada recieving the uranium. The finding of the yellowcake is about 5 years old. This is not new.
Lots of countries use yellowcake. Iraq's stuff was Pre- Gulf War. The IAEA knew about it and so did we.....20 years ago!!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1560204/Libya-stalls-on-vow-to-destroy-uranium-stock.html

Fact remains, it is up for debate wether having the 550 tons was a just cause for going to war. Saddam did not have an active nuclear program...Israel took care of that in the 80's.

So, is this Bush's reason for going to war without any plan? Having uranium that we already knew about without being able to enrich it?

On to the next attempt to justify his war. I'm sure someone can make a link between him and Bin Laden just as easily as I can link myself to Kevin Bacon.

Wow so someone that keeps doing the wrong thing is respectable when he is hurting the greater public? Do you feel the same way about the Baseline Rapist? An official that thinks they know what is right for everyone else and doesn't listen to the people is not what I want for my country. I am looking for a leader for the people and by the people not a dictator.

Posted By kenmoreguy72 on 07/14/2008 9:52 PM
Scar-
I stated that the US has always had the strongest military. As for who built the stronger military, this is not the forum to debate that.

You are right, this is not the forum for that.

I am not a fan of privatizing the military or the current redeployment happenings. No doubt that Bush has spent more than Clinton...I will concede that. Spending more doesn't always mean stronger.

I absolutely agree with you regarding the private companies involved in the war.  Although Cheney's financial records are "public record," it still does not sit right with me, especially in light of the (allegedly) fruadulent monies obtained for (alleged) services rendered.  I can't speak/write intelligently about how much Bush spent vs. Clinton spent on the military.  It does seem logical Bush spent more.

The terrorists don't hate the American way of life. They hate America. They don't want us in the Middle East. I will never buy "they hate us for our freedom". That is a crock. If they hate freedom, the Netherlands would've been bombed to kingdom come.

I don't think they hate us because of our freedom, but I do think they hate the American way of life.  If America was a Muslim country, they would love the U.S. They don't want us in the middle east because it is predominantly Muslim, and, as I wrote earlier, they think if they can control the majority of the U.S. oil supply, they can have a profound affect on our military.  The U.S doesn't get get the majority of oil from the middle east, but it is a start.  They have the ultimate goal of an Islam world - make no mistake about that.

Radical Islam can not prevail. You are correct.
The point that many people are trying to make is that Mr. Bush mismanaged this war from the get go. We took our eye off the Taliban and went to fight a war that was built on lies and grudges. There was no real plan to win. It was thought that we would be welcomed with open arms. How wrong they were.
That is neither here nor there. We are there and will be there for years to come. Do I have the exact plan for victory? No. Do I have an idea of what I would like to see happen? You bet. We need to put pressure on the Iraqis to stand up. The whole open-ended committment thing is old. We need to put more men in Afghanistan and stop treating Pakistan as if they are a good buddy. We also need to get a little tough with Iran.

In my opinion, we did not spend enough time in Afghanistan; both in the late 80's and recently.  Remember, we trained the Taliban, we (secretly) got them Russian weapons to fight the Russians - they were allies.  But because we left them high and dry, Islamist extremests promised them the world and ultimately infused themselves.

To lay all the blame on Bush for mismanaging the war (save Halliburton and KBR), is not fair.  A Democratic Congress has continued fund the war with mild posturing.  The short of it is, whether you are for, or against the war, if we pull out now, the wrong people will gain control.  Regarding the comment of welcoming the U.S. with open arms: you may want to talk with people who have been in country before making that claim.  Additionally, there are still a large faction of Iraq's population who will always remain loyal to Saddam.

We can't do all that now. Mr. Bush has spread our military thin. He put us in Iraq without a viable exit strategy. THat is my belief...no ignorance there.