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impalashark
Posts:30

 | | 06/30/2008 1:32 AM |
Alert | AzSandSlinger,
Not sure what your sources are, but Hussein does not mean "Handsome one". It is the name of one of the Caliphs in Islam. Hassan and Hussein were the sons of Ali, who was Prophet Mohammad's cousin and wanted to become the first Caliph. Ali and both his sons were murdered - that gave rise to the Shia faction of the Muslims.
MAYBE you're confusing Hussein with "Husn", which is an Urdu/Persian word for beauty.
BOB,
I am not sure how it works with you, but in other parts of the world a child BY DEFAULT takes the religion of the father. Barak's father, Barak Obama Sr was a Muslim (his father, Hussein Onyango Obama had actually converted from Christianity to Islam. Barak Obama Sr himself never embraced any other religion, and had multiple wives, as permitted in Islam. Thus, there is no reason to believe he was NOT a Muslim, despite Obama Jr's claims that Obama Sr was an atheist. In fact, Obama Sr's another daughter claims he was a "non practicing Muslim). That makes Barak Obama a born Muslim, like it or not. If you want you can consider him a convert to Christianity at best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.
None of this (whether BHO was a born Muslim or not) influences me in any way, but I am just trying to bring this forward that YOU make up your opinion on facts and not hearsay (from either of the camps).
Hope I was able to bring some facts your way. | | | |
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| | BOB
Posts:300


 | | 06/30/2008 5:48 AM |
Alert | I agree, I was born and raised Catholic but at this point in life I would rather burn in hell than abide by what the Catholic Church preaches! Does that make me Catholic? I think not!! The point I was trying to make is that I have conversed with a number of morons that swear to god that Senator Obama is Muslim merely because they read it on the Grudge report or Ann Coulter or lardassssssRush said so!!  | | | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:553


 | | 06/30/2008 7:59 AM |
Alert | DESERTGAL, OBG, GEEWIZ and JHALL I think maybe you have all been out in the sun way too long!!!! You have placed me in great company and I thank you Bob, why vote for a product of misengenation? a muslim, a marxist, a whacko liberal astraddle a flip flop.? | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1041


 | | | desertgal
Posts:142


 | | 06/30/2008 9:50 AM |
Alert | Posted By BOB on 06/30/2008 12:56 AM
DESERTGAL, OBG, GEEWIZ and JHALL I think maybe you have all been out in the sun way too long!!!!
You are no doubt among the same group of IGNORANTS that swear up one side and down the other that Senator Obama is Muslim! lol!!!!
Well, thank God that we're not among the group of IGNORANTS that would vote for someone like Barack HUSSEIN Obama. If he should, God forbid, ever become president, we sure can't be blamed for the mess that would ensue.
| | Proud conservatives happily living on our acreage in the beautiful mountains of Hidden Valley with no HOA. | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3626


 | | 06/30/2008 10:07 AM |
Alert | Posted By desertgal on 06/30/2008 9:50 AM Posted By BOB on 06/30/2008 12:56 AM
DESERTGAL, OBG, GEEWIZ and JHALL I think maybe you have all been out in the sun way too long!!!!
You are no doubt among the same group of IGNORANTS that swear up one side and down the other that Senator Obama is Muslim! lol!!!!
Well, thank God that we're not among the group of IGNORANTS that would vote for someone like Barack HUSSEIN Obama. If he should, God forbid, ever become president, we sure can't be blamed for the mess that would ensue.
Thank God we have a HELL, because people like you will be there. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:2589


 | | 06/30/2008 10:11 AM |
Alert | | Thank God most voters in the USA vote on a candidate's stance and views...........and not how they look or what their middle name is.......... | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3626


 | | 06/30/2008 10:19 AM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 06/30/2008 10:11 AM
Thank God most voters in the USA vote on a candidate's stance and views...........and not how they look or what their middle name is.......... exactly!
I'm proud to be living in Maricopa where it's all about their political views and not being friends with muslims and have an open mind. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | caveman
Posts:1078


 | | 06/30/2008 3:05 PM |
Alert | Posted By desertgal on 06/30/2008 9:50 AM Posted By BOB on 06/30/2008 12:56 AM
DESERTGAL, OBG, GEEWIZ and JHALL I think maybe you have all been out in the sun way too long!!!!
You are no doubt among the same group of IGNORANTS that swear up one side and down the other that Senator Obama is Muslim! lol!!!!
Well, thank God that we're not among the group of IGNORANTS that would vote for someone like Barack HUSSEIN Obama. If he should, God forbid, ever become president, we sure can't be blamed for the mess that would ensue.
[/quote Look at where we are now... People are losing their jobs, the price of goods are going up, and our national debt is out of control. What makes you think Obama will create a mess? Bush created a mess and the next president has to get us out of it. That includes removing troops from Iraq. That war is the biggest scam ever. People are losing their lives over there and over here people are losing their livelihood. It doesn't get much worse than this. What makes you think Obama is so bad? I would like to see some credible evidence. | | | |
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| | AzSandSlinger
Posts:587


 | | 06/30/2008 4:55 PM |
Alert | AzSandSlinger, Not sure what your sources are, but Hussein does not mean "Handsome one". It is the name of one of the Caliphs in Islam. Hassan and Hussein were the sons of Ali, who was Prophet Mohammad's cousin and wanted to become the first Caliph. Ali and both his sons were murdered - that gave rise to the Shia faction of the Muslims. FYI.. the "Hussein" you speak of is actually "Husayn".. and they are both derivatives of the same Arabic word "hasuna"... so now that you have given some history on the person who may have made the name popular.... I'll provide you the websites... Meaning of Hussein... ..another in case you don't like Wiki... ... and yet another source.. So again.. I hope the voting public is smart enough to look beyond someone's middle name.. to me, that's up there with not voting for him because he's black.. small-minded idiocy.. -Shane | | ------------------------------------------------------------- Ultra Super Member Posts: eleventy-billion Joined: 10 Nov 1775 ------------------------------------------------------------- "There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion."
Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army | |
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| | RichTig
Posts:0

 | | 06/30/2008 5:08 PM |
Alert | Posted By caveman on 06/30/2008 3:05 PM Posted By desertgal on 06/30/2008 9:50 AM Posted By BOB on 06/30/2008 12:56 AM
DESERTGAL, OBG, GEEWIZ and JHALL I think maybe you have all been out in the sun way too long!!!!
You are no doubt among the same group of IGNORANTS that swear up one side and down the other that Senator Obama is Muslim! lol!!!!
Well, thank God that we're not among the group of IGNORANTS that would vote for someone like Barack HUSSEIN Obama. If he should, God forbid, ever become president, we sure can't be blamed for the mess that would ensue.
[/quote Look at where we are now... People are losing their jobs, the price of goods are going up, and our national debt is out of control. What makes you think Obama will create a mess? Bush created a mess and the next president has to get us out of it. That includes removing troops from Iraq. That war is the biggest scam ever. People are losing their lives over there and over here people are losing their livelihood. It doesn't get much worse than this. What makes you think Obama is so bad? I would like to see some credible evidence. The Republicans screwed up the country. We can choose Bush the 3rd (McCain) or something/anything else (Obama). |
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| | BOB
Posts:300


 | | 06/30/2008 8:48 PM |
Alert | Amen!!!! Too that!!! It comes down to the Bush Trilogy vs Barack Hussein Obama....... Senator Obama is the man for the job!!! | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3626


 | | 06/30/2008 9:33 PM |
Alert | Posted By BOB on 06/30/2008 8:48 PM Amen!!!! Too that!!! It comes down to the Bush Trilogy vs Barack Hussein Obama....... Senator Obama is the man for the job!!! Makes 2 of us that believe he can do it..... | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | impalashark
Posts:30

 | | 06/30/2008 11:01 PM |
Alert | Posted By AzSandSlinger on 06/30/2008 4:55 PM AzSandSlinger, Not sure what your sources are, but Hussein does not mean "Handsome one". It is the name of one of the Caliphs in Islam. Hassan and Hussein were the sons of Ali, who was Prophet Mohammad's cousin and wanted to become the first Caliph. Ali and both his sons were murdered - that gave rise to the Shia faction of the Muslims. FYI.. the "Hussein" you speak of is actually "Husayn".. and they are both derivatives of the same Arabic word "hasuna"... so now that you have given some history on the person who may have made the name popular.... I'll provide you the websites... Meaning of Hussein... ..another in case you don't like Wiki... ... and yet another source.. So again.. I hope the voting public is smart enough to look beyond someone's middle name.. to me, that's up there with not voting for him because he's black.. small-minded idiocy.. -Shane Shane, Nice to know you've done some research yourself. Here's what I thought you're confusing Hussein with. http://www.urduword.com/search.php?Roman=husN As you can see, they're phonitically very similar. Anyway, whether Hussein was named thus to imply he was the handsome one, or the word Hussein came to mean the handsome one because he was a handsome man (you may recall many words acquire their meaning after people, e.g. Casanova), I think you'd still not doubt that Hussein really is a Muslim name. While I was at it, I did some digging and figured out that according to a general interpretation of Sharia, the Islamic law, the punishment for giving up Islam is execution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam If Obama was born a Muslim, could he have converted? No. You might have some doubts whether a child born to a Muslim man is a Muslim. The Sharia, the Islamic law states that a child born to a Muslim man must be raised a Muslim. (Sorry, I could not find a more definitive link: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=3&ID=8202&CATE=250) Incidentally, a report says that Obama's half brother Malik (I mentioned earlier that Obama Sr was a Muslim and had multiple wives, a practice permitted in Islam) said Obama was raised a Muslim. I don't know if you can believe that report, but please feel free to draw your own conclusions. http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm Btw my objective here is not to say that BO is a Muslim so dont vote for him. If you can trust a Muslim by all means his being a Muslim isn't a handicap at all. But why would someone who was a born Muslim flatly and repeatedly deny that? I am surprised how an entire nation can believe something that is so evidently not true. Oh and a final note here. You can flame me as much as you want, but I am not a US Citizen, so I can't vote or have a say or interest in who takes the Oval Office in Jan. Flaming me instead of analyzing the real problem at hand will only hurt your own country. | | | |
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| | BOB
Posts:300


 | | 07/01/2008 1:34 AM |
Alert | You might have some doubts whether a child born to a Muslim man is a Muslim. The Sharia, the Islamic law states that a child born to a Muslim man must be raised a Muslim.
You neglect to mention that Barack was abandoned by his father when he was 2 years old. You also neglect to mention that even if he had been raised a Muslim, he would still have the freedom too choose his own faith as an adult. | | | |
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| | BOB
Posts:300


 | | 07/01/2008 1:37 AM |
Alert | Posted By drummer72 on 06/30/2008 9:33 PM Posted By BOB on 06/30/2008 8:48 PM Amen!!!! Too that!!! It comes down to the Bush Trilogy vs Barack Hussein Obama....... Senator Obama is the man for the job!!! Makes 2 of us that believe he can do it..... We may be few in #'s on this site but we are millions strong nationwide!!!!! | | | |
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| | desertgal
Posts:142


 | | 07/01/2008 7:24 AM |
Alert | In 2006 Barack HUSSEIN Obama visited Raila Amola Odinga in Kenya to support him during the upcoming election in which Odinga was running for president of Kenya. Odinga had promised in a Memorandum of Understanding between Hon. Raila Amolo Odinga, representing the Orange Democratic Movement and National Muslim Leaders to turn Kenya into a Muslim country with strict Shariah law. If Odinga claims to be a Christian, why would he want to turn Kenya into a Muslim country? Why would Obama support him?
After Obama won in the New Hampshire primary, he called Odinga to tell him of his success, and what else they talked about, we probably won't ever know.
Here is documentation on this matter.
http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=10
http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8
It has been classic with Barack Hussein Obama that he will not forsake anything un-American or anti-Christian in his past (Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Wright, Ayers) until national attention is drawn to it, Barack Hussein Obama has told so many lies and wiggled himself out of so many tight spots. This man is a snake, and I hope that it isn't too late for our Republic, which Barack Hussein Obama would damage irreparably, when this truth is recognized.
It is not beyond imagination that a Muslim would run for the presidency of this country under the guise of Christianity. Muslims are not above lying when it is advantageous to them.
As it stands, our present Congress has undermined this country terribly. I can only imagine that the entire underpinnings of this country would come down under Barack Hussein Obama's leadership.
One final conclusion - anyone (Barack Hussein Obama) who says that there are many paths to God is definitely not a Christian. That is certainly not a basic tenet of Christianity.
Look for the inconsistencies in this person of Barack Hussein Obama, and you will find many of them. | | Proud conservatives happily living on our acreage in the beautiful mountains of Hidden Valley with no HOA. | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:553


 | | 07/01/2008 7:32 AM |
Alert | i would like to see some credible evidence that HUSSEIN can turn things around. this outta be good. | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:553


 | | 07/01/2008 7:49 AM |
Alert | I have 10 extra tickets for the Robbie Knievel event at 'The Swamp' in Gainesville this weekend if anybody wants them. He's going to try to jump 500 HUSSEIN supporters with a bull dozer. | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:2589


 | | 07/01/2008 10:28 AM |
Alert | | Can I bring my banjo and bible? | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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