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Subject: Vets unfit to be President?
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hastings1066User is Offline

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05/22/2008 1:00 PM Alert 

In an article in The Des Moines Register, Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin told reporters that McCain's family history of military service makes him unfit to be President. A Democratic strategist, Kristen Powers, said this about Harkin's comments: "I think it's a problem. I don't know why he would say something like that, and it reinforces the idea of Democrats not respecting military service, . . .. " It sure does! This from a Sen. who lied about his own service.

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05/22/2008 1:16 PM Alert 
What's his mental state like? Does McCain suffer from some sort of post war trauma?
I would be conserned about that, if he was in the white house, next to that red button.

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05/22/2008 1:24 PM Alert 
Good grief. Weren't some of the better President's vets?

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05/22/2008 1:37 PM Alert 

I don't think being a vet makes one a better president.
Sure, they'll get all my respect for serving our country, but that's about it.
Like alot of people this election year, they'll vote for a vet, regardless of what he's going to
do for our country.


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05/22/2008 1:53 PM Alert 

Washington,Jackson, Grant, Lincoln, Kennedy, Truman, Eisenhower, just to name a few.

JerriMUser is Offline

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05/22/2008 6:24 PM Alert 
Vets make better employees for any job.

Does McCain suffer from Post War trauma? I'm sure he does, he was a prisoner of war, it has however been a lifetime ago, so it apparently hasn't affected his day to day life.
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05/22/2008 11:10 PM Alert 
Posted By hastings1066 on 05/22/2008 1:53 PM

Washington,Jackson, Grant, Lincoln, Kennedy, Truman, Eisenhower, just to name a few.

 

You'll never see McCain on that list.


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05/22/2008 11:11 PM Alert 
Posted By JerriM on 05/22/2008 6:24 PM
Vets make better employees for any job.

Does McCain suffer from Post War trauma? I'm sure he does, he was a prisoner of war, it has however been a lifetime ago, so it apparently hasn't affected his day to day life.

 

Any job? Care to define what any job is?


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05/23/2008 7:28 AM Alert 

Veterans are better at any job, veterans have the discipline learned in the millitary that they can apply to their daily job. They usually get the job task completed faster, better, more efficient, etc. And they have put up with bs in the military that civilians can't comprehend.


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05/23/2008 9:02 AM Alert 

In total, 33 of the 43 United States Presidents have had military service, including George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt,and Harry Truman. Ten of these have held the rank of Brigadier General or higher, and only 3 of the 33 performed their military service exclusively in times of peace.

 

Basically this guy is a Democrat and a former presidential candidate.  Hes jsut one of hte many mud slingers that care more about their party then their country.


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05/23/2008 11:27 AM Alert 
Posted By JasonY on 05/23/2008 7:28 AM

Veterans are better at any job, veterans have the discipline learned in the millitary that they can apply to their daily job. They usually get the job task completed faster, better, more efficient, etc. And they have put up with bs in the military that civilians can't comprehend.

 

I agree that they are hard workers. But, I disagree, because there are alot of hard workers that can do well at their jobs AND  were not in the military.

It's all about the work ethics we were brought up with and the military doesn't need to play a factor. 

 


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05/23/2008 11:28 AM Alert 
Posted By Pizzaking on 05/23/2008 9:02 AM

In total, 33 of the 43 United States Presidents have had military service, including George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt,and Harry Truman. Ten of these have held the rank of Brigadier General or higher, and only 3 of the 33 performed their military service exclusively in times of peace.

 

Basically this guy is a Democrat and a former presidential candidate.  Hes jsut one of hte many mud slingers that care more about their party then their country.

 

BS

 


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05/23/2008 1:10 PM Alert 
Posted By drummer72 on 05/23/2008 11:27 AM
Posted By JasonY on 05/23/2008 7:28 AM

Veterans are better at any job, veterans have the discipline learned in the millitary that they can apply to their daily job. They usually get the job task completed faster, better, more efficient, etc. And they have put up with bs in the military that civilians can't comprehend.

 

I agree that they are hard workers. But, I disagree, because there are alot of hard workers that can do well at their jobs AND  were not in the military.

It's all about the work ethics we were brought up with and the military doesn't need to play a factor. 

 

True that there are many hard workers that were not in the military, but military service does play a factor.  But I wouldn't vote for a candidate just on the fact that they were in the military.

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05/23/2008 4:36 PM Alert 
Posted By JasonY on 05/23/2008 1:10 PM
Posted By drummer72 on 05/23/2008 11:27 AM
Posted By JasonY on 05/23/2008 7:28 AM

Veterans are better at any job, veterans have the discipline learned in the millitary that they can apply to their daily job. They usually get the job task completed faster, better, more efficient, etc. And they have put up with bs in the military that civilians can't comprehend.

 

I agree that they are hard workers. But, I disagree, because there are alot of hard workers that can do well at their jobs AND  were not in the military.

It's all about the work ethics we were brought up with and the military doesn't need to play a factor. 

 

True that there are many hard workers that were not in the military, but military service does play a factor.  But I wouldn't vote for a candidate just on the fact that they were in the military.

But the point Sen. Harkins made was that being a vet from a family of vets makes one unfit to be President. Now that ,to use drummers term, is BS.

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05/23/2008 5:57 PM Alert 

I'm not a Veteran. I don't have any affinity for any branch of the armed services. There have been too many studies on this subject, military make better employees. Is this absolute? of course not, every theory has it's detractors. It's not just the work ethic , it is the training that the US military gets.  

 

 

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05/24/2008 7:50 PM Alert 

From a recent news magazine - The following poem is etched on the wall of a sentry box on Gibraltar.

GOD AND THE SOLDIER, ALL MEN ADORE,                                                       IN TIME OF DANGER AND NOT BEFORE .                                                   WHEN THE DANGER IS PASSED AND ALL  THINGS RIGHTED,                 GOD IS FORGOTTEN AND THE SOLDIER SLIGHTED.                                                      

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