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AZ Dreaming
Posts:292


 | | 04/25/2008 7:16 PM |
Alert | I say yes. Whether it's Hillary or Obama they will prevail. One reason why? If you have seen news clips of McCain recently you will notice how older he walks and acts. This will become VERY apparent when he goes head to head in a debate against the vigor and deciveness of the Democrat candidate. Also, his stand on the war in Iraq in totally unacceptable. America is bleeding to death from debt and our armed forces are streched to the breaking point. How can he possibly defend his position on the war? 
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| | HiggsBoson
Posts:641


 | | 04/25/2008 7:30 PM |
Alert | I dont know who is going to win, obviously the Democrats were given a great oportunity, but it looks like they are doing their best to mess it up. Whoever it is, its going to be another close race.
Thanks, Higgs | | Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts. -- Ludwig Von Mises | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378


 | | 04/26/2008 12:04 AM |
Alert | | I don't know, I've seen Obama stuttering and stumbling through questions he didn't expect. His prepared speeches have nice smooth delivery but during those debates last week he had trouble. And then there's Hillary. She has trouble staying on topic and ends up rambling on and on and on...and she also seemed to have a lot of trouble looking at those who ask the question as she answered it. | | Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | Reagan
Posts:737


 | | 04/26/2008 10:50 AM |
Alert | I think if its Obama vs. McCain, McCain will run away with it. Obama doesn't have a feel good sense when delivering a prepared speech- he is very good at it. He doesn't seem to do well in a debate setting.
Hillary against McCain will be close. Hillary strays from topic, but the lying comes so natural many can't tell. I do think McCains age will start to show. | | Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:872


 | | 04/26/2008 5:16 PM |
Alert | A few months ago it looked like the Dems had the election in the bag. Their problem has always been that you have to take far left positions to win the nomination and then you have to convince the general electorate that you are not the far left politician that you spent millions to convince the Dem primary voters that you were.. With the skills of a con-man, Clinton was able to pull it off, but his wife and Obama do not have his amoral ability. Also the Dems make promises to so many differing groups that they often conflict. I think it was a Democratic senator who said, many years ago, that if the Democratic party organized a firing squad all of the squad members would stand in a circle. | | | |
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| | Cactus Rob
Posts:1018


 | | 04/26/2008 7:20 PM |
Alert | From my inbox:  I agree wholeheartedly with Sen. Hillary Clinton when she insinuates
that Sen. Barack Obama is not qualified or capable of running this
country, I also agree wholeheartedly with Sen. Barack Obama when he
insinuates that Sen. Hillary Clinton is not qualified or capable of
running this country.
So, for the first time that I can recall, I am in total agreement with
the Democratic Party. | | | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:546


 | | 04/26/2008 9:01 PM |
Alert | If Hillary's claim to be experienced in presidential matters harks back to her 8 years in the White House, then Monica Lewinsky could be Secretary of Defense! | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:546


 | | 04/26/2008 9:03 PM |
Alert | McCain would do well to choose a young VP to run and be elected with; and then just sleep off the 4 years. | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:546


 | | 04/26/2008 9:09 PM |
Alert | Stanley Ann Dunham
Barack's Momma Stanley Ann Dunham,
Mercer Island High School
Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetoro (November 29, 1942 - November 7, 1995), known as Ann Dunham and Stanley Ann Dunham, was an American anthropologist, left-wing social activist, and the mother of Senator Barack Obama. She was born in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, to Stanleyand Madelyn Dunham. Her father (who gave his only child his name) was a furniture salesman in downtown Seattle, Washington, and her mother worked for a bank. After a year living in Seattle, her family moved to Mercer Island, Washington, in 1956 so that 13-year old Ann could attend theMercer Island High School that had just opened. At the school she was on the debate team and graduated in 1960.
Her family moved to Hawaii and Ann attended the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where she studied anthropology. When Ann Dunham arrived in Hawaii, she was a full fledged radical leftist and practitioner of critical theory. She also began to engage in miscegenation (inter-racial relationships) as part of her attack on society. Susan Blake, one of her friends has stated she never dated the crew-cut white boys, She had a world view, even as a young girl. It was embracing the different, rather than that ethnocentric thing of shunning the different. That was where her mind took her. In Hawaii she met Barack Obama, Sr. from Kenya in her Russian language class. Barack Obama, Jr. was born August 4, 1961.Barack Obama, Sr. left Ann and their son in 1963 to attend Harvard in Boston. Press reports claim Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. were divorced around this time; however, no evidence has yet been presented to show they were ever married. The senior Obama obtained a masters degree in economics at Harvard and returned to Kenya in 1965 where he obtained a position in the Kenyan government. He was killed in an automobile accident in 1982.
Two years later, when her son was five, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian oil manager and practicing Muslim whom she meet at the university. In 1967 they moved to Jakarta, Indonesia. While in Indonesia Ann got a job at the American embassy teaching English. Barack's half-sister, Maya Soetoro was born in Indonesia. Ann, Obama and his sister Maya moved back to Hawaii. Ann Dunham soon returned to Indonesia with Maya but divorced Soetoro in the late 1970s.
Dunham traveled around the world, pursuing a career in rural development that took her to Ghana, India, Thailand, Indonesia, Nepal and Bangladesh. In 1986 Ann Dunham worked on a developmental project in Pakistan. Later that year Ann and her daughter traveled the Silk Road inChina. In 1992 she earned a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Hawaii. Her dissertation, "Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against All Odds," was 1067 pages long. She worked for the Ford Foundation and promoted Microlending.
During Obama's campaign for the 2008 presidential election he portrayed his mother as a conservative girl from Kansas; however in reality she was a radical leftist and cultural Marxist. She lived in the Seattle area; spending her teenage years in Seattle's coffee shops with other young radical leftist. Obama claims his mother's family were conservative Methodists or Baptists from Kansas. However his mother's parents were members of aleft-wing Unitarian church near Seattle. The church located in Bellevue, Washington was nicknamed "the little red church," because of its communist leanings.
The school Ann attended, Mercer Island High School, was a hotbed of pro-Marxist radical teachers. John Stenhouse, board member, told the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party USA and this school has a number of Marxists on it's staff. Two teachers at this school, Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman, both Frankfurt School style Marxists, taught a critical theory curriculum to students which include d; rejection of societal norms, attacks on Christianity, the traditional family, and assigned readings by Karl Marx. The hallway between Fouberts and Wichterman classrooms was sometimes called "anarchy ally."Dunham has been described by her friends as "a fellow traveler..." meaning a communist sympathizer. In an interview, Barack Obama referred to his mother as "the dominant figure in my formative years... The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics." Before she died Ann Dunham wanted to adopt a mixed-race Korean baby father by a Black American stationed in South Korea. Ann Dunham died in Hawaii in 1995 of ovarian cancer and uterine cancer.
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IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | kenmoreguy72
Posts:190

 | | 04/26/2008 10:35 PM |
Alert | OBG is so blinded by hate that he can not look at anything in an unbiased manner.
About your post above...SO WHAT??? The connection of Obama's mother and communism is just like Bush's grandfather and the Nazi's. Of course you aren't concerned about that, are you? | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:643


 | | 04/27/2008 9:27 AM |
Alert | | It's still interesting reading. | | Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3535


 | | 04/27/2008 10:16 PM |
Alert | | OBG is the typical republican in this town. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | High i
Posts:120


 | | 04/28/2008 2:16 AM |
Alert | Posted By OBG II on 04/26/2008 9:01 PM If Hillary's claim to be experienced in presidential matters harks back to her 8 years in the White House, then Monica Lewinsky could be Secretary of Defense!
I see I'm not the only one that watches "Real Time" on HBO.
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| | OBG II
Posts:546


 | | 04/28/2008 9:35 AM |
Alert | Why should I be concerned about W Bush's credentials when he is not even running, having been DULY elected two times as president by y'all? | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:546


 | | 04/28/2008 9:38 AM |
Alert | If the Democrats formed a firing squad the line would be a circle. | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | OBG II
Posts:546


 | | 04/28/2008 9:41 AM |
Alert | http://www.michaelhodges.com/missing.html
This will sum up Hillary's campaign | | Some people will do anything to get elected!
IMPALIN' THE LEFT | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3535


 | | 04/28/2008 6:54 PM |
Alert | Posted By OBG II on 04/28/2008 9:38 AM If the Democrats formed a firing squad the line would be a circle. With OBG in the middle... | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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| | alanf
Posts:1473


 | | 04/29/2008 9:05 AM |
Alert | | But still a circle...LOL | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:872


 | | 04/29/2008 3:04 PM |
Alert | The Marxist agenda of Obamas' mother is important to a discussion of politics today because, on numerous occasions, Obama has stated that she had a great influence on his political views. So, if he is telling the truth, and I am sure that he is, one should know her views in order to better understand his. | | | |
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| | drummer72
Posts:3535


 | | 04/29/2008 10:47 PM |
Alert | Posted By alanf on 04/29/2008 9:05 AM
But still a circle...LOL But OBGyn is still in the middle. | | "Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves" | |
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