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RingoUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 8:59 AM Alert 
KH said
"ED is a short term fix that can be accomplished relatively soon. "

What types of jobs are you talking about. Do you know what companies are coming or want to come to Maricopa? other then retail?

The bailout is wrong. We should not do it. My God this is the stupidest idea ever. Bush is stupid if he signs this. But he has done other stupid things
gilbertglcnUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 9:01 AM Alert 
Mr. Green - Since you have taken to responding to others' questions, I shall do the same concerning your information.

I think enough information is available to understand the MA Maricopa issue. It has been stated enough times that there were some comments made that would probably lose the suit if it went forward. Don't you think the lawyers have the best interest in mind? They are professionals, much better at making the determination of what we can win and what we can't. IF THERE WERE ENOUGH COMMENTS TO WARRANT TERMINATION, WHY DOES MR. HADDAD STATE THERE WAS NOT? LAWYERS ONLY HAVE THEIR BEST INTERESTS, NOT MARICOPA'S. SINCE WHEN IS A LAWYER THE FINAL DETERMINATION IN A SUIT - THAT IS WHAT A JUDGE AND/OR JURY IS. A LAWYER IS SIMPLY AN ADVOCATE FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER.

Also, the questions on 'was someone fired' because of this mistake? I would bet that AMY wasn't fire because of this mistake, but had it come around while she was still employeed she may have. AS THIS ISSUE CAME UP BEFORE THE CITY PAID OFF MS. HABERBOSCH, WHY DID NOT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE THIS ISSUE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE PAYING HER OFF?


I also think that Kathy Hall's blog is ridiculous. I've read nothing on her blog that even sparks an interest. She's trying to stay relavent and it doesn't work for me. I find it hard to understand why anyone is paying attention to her blog. SINCE WE GET NO INFORMATION FROM THE CITY, AND SINCE SHE SHARES HER INFORMATION, WHY NOT. SINCE MR. HADDAD HAS STATED THAT THE REASON FOR THE PAYOUT TO MA MARICOPA WAS DUE TO INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE FROM A STAFF MEMBER TO MA MARICOPA, SINCE THE CITY PAID OUT MS. HABERBOSCH TO GO AWAY, IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN HER. SINCE THE EMAIL IS COMMUNICATION, WHY DOESN'T THE CITY RELEASE IT? HOW BAD CAN IT BE, IF IT DOES NOT WARRANT TERMINATION, AS MR. HADDAD STATED IN THIS FORUM?
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04/30/2008 9:11 AM Alert 
Posted By CleanuptheCopa on 04/30/2008 8:30 AM
Haha, hey meistersinger, dont you know you arent supposed to know about the "secret" handbooks that state those ever elusive facts.

Ok, lets try this, a simple question..

My Haddad, How often have you picked up your council packet on the day of the council meeting? I am not being nit-picky, it is relavent to me that our city council be well informed on the issues being presented. Picking up the packet the same day is not even close to enough time to prepare for a vote. Keep in mind there are some people who know exactly when you pick up your packet, most times. Honesty, integrity, responsibility, and the simple act of being human and making mistakes are what this question is getting at. I would prefer to hear you say "yes, I pick up my packet late because of my work schedule, or whatever reason, but I will work hard to improve on that."


To: Cleanupthecopa:

I know  - ignorance is bliss!

arkyanUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 9:59 AM Alert 
Mr Haddad,

As a prospective Maricopa resident I am keenly interested in the goings on of the current local government as well as the direction that the city is looking to take. As you may be aware, a primary concern of people like myself who find the housing costs in Maricopa to be attractive is the distance and the length of the commute.

A previous poster asked you about efforts to alleviate the situation with additional routes connecting the city with Interstate 10. While I understand that any such efforts are contingent upon cooperation with the Gila River Indian Community and are not solely within the purview of the Maricopa city council, your response to the question seemed unnecessarily pessimistic and dismissive of the problem. Is it not one of the duties of local government to make an effort to be a good neighbor and work with, rather than against, other local governments?

I appreciate your intent to be honest and not make promises to the voters which you cannot keep, however your reply seemed to lack the promise of even any efforts to see through this situation. Is this sort of myopic pessimism and apparent lack of a willingness to explore potential options to problems descriptive of the current city council members, and is it the same sort of future that you would envision for the city if you were re-elected to the position? Or are you willing to adopt a less defeatist attitude when it comes to the unique problems faced by your community?

I am certain that I am not the only potential resident who is watching you and the council carefully, concerned as to the direction that you wish to take the community in. Whether or not myself or other prospective residents choose to relocate here depends in large part upon the ability of the local leadership to tackle the issues rather than concede to defeat.
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04/30/2008 11:47 AM Alert 

Posted By gilbertglcn on 04/30/2008 9:01 AM
Mr. Green - Since you have taken to responding to others' questions, I shall do the same concerning your information.

I think enough information is available to understand the MA Maricopa issue. It has been stated enough times that there were some comments made that would probably lose the suit if it went forward. Don't you think the lawyers have the best interest in mind? They are professionals, much better at making the determination of what we can win and what we can't. IF THERE WERE ENOUGH COMMENTS TO WARRANT TERMINATION, WHY DOES MR. HADDAD STATE THERE WAS NOT? Obviously, you want the person fired. Please go and make a public cry for this. I personally don’t believe I have enough facts to know whether the person should be fired or not.  Just do something about it instead of continuing to whine.  Haddad answered your question, you didn't like the answer, so go make a statement.

LAWYERS ONLY HAVE THEIR BEST INTERESTS, NOT MARICOPA'S. SINCE WHEN IS A LAWYER THE FINAL DETERMINATION IN A SUIT - THAT IS WHAT A JUDGE AND/OR JURY IS. A LAWYER IS SIMPLY AN ADVOCATE FOR ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. Your response is not logical, IF a lawyer had their best interest in mind, they would have advised the city to go to court and made more money. A lawyer represents a client, in this case Maricopa, has reviewed the facts and has presented the facts to the city council. The lawyer’s council was to settle out of court. That is what a lawyer is supposed to do, save their client money, not spend lots of money to fight a case that has a more probable opportunity for lose than win. A client has to judge the advise given by the lawyer and make a decision. That’s what the city did. I think it is the right decision.

Also, the questions on 'was someone fired' because of this mistake? I would bet that AMY wasn't fire because of this mistake, but had it come around while she was still employeed she may have. AS THIS ISSUE CAME UP BEFORE THE CITY PAID OFF MS. HABERBOSCH, WHY DID NOT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE THIS ISSUE INTO CONSIDERATION BEFORE PAYING HER OFF?You want everything black and white, and in a perfect timeline and it’s not. Could it be possible that the complete review of the MA file was not finished prior to the email finding? Hmmm, possible, huh?  There are many other scenarios that could have happened as well.  You can't make up your own timeline and then base questions off it.


I also think that Kathy Hall's blog is ridiculous. I've read nothing on her blog that even sparks an interest. She's trying to stay relavent and it doesn't work for me. I find it hard to understand why anyone is paying attention to her blog. SINCE WE GET NO INFORMATION FROM THE CITY, AND SINCE SHE SHARES HER INFORMATION, WHY NOT. SINCE MR. HADDAD HAS STATED THAT THE REASON FOR THE PAYOUT TO MA MARICOPA WAS DUE TO INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE FROM A STAFF MEMBER TO MA MARICOPA, SINCE THE CITY PAID OUT MS. HABERBOSCH TO GO AWAY, IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN HER. SINCE THE EMAIL IS COMMUNICATION, WHY DOESN'T THE CITY RELEASE IT? HOW BAD CAN IT BE, IF IT DOES NOT WARRANT TERMINATION, AS MR. HADDAD STATED IN THIS FORUM?Again, if you want the email, go request it. You do have a right to it! Just stop whining! As for Kathy’s blog, it is just one side, one opinion. It’s not fact. You treat it like it’s fact! That’s the ridiculous part!

 

Kelly HaddadUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 3:14 PM Alert 

Ringo,

I do not have definitive answers as to a company or companies that are coming.  I do know that there have been many that have looked at Maricopa.  As far as the types of jobs that I am talking about, as I have stated, Maricopa has a very highly educated population; therefore, I am not talking about minimum wage jobs.

meistersingerUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 3:51 PM Alert 
Posted By Kelly Haddad on 04/30/2008 3:14 PM

Ringo,

I do not have definitive answers as to a company or companies that are coming.

Would Ioanna Morfessis, Senior Economic Development Consultant be able to answer the question. We pay her $12,500 yearly in consultant fees to bring commercial development here?

I do know that there have been many that have looked at Maricopa.

Again, wouldn't Ioanna Morfessis, Senior Economic Development Consultant know who was interested? I assume the City gives her goals to accomplish, and she inturn provides the City with a summary report of who, what, when and where.

As far as the types of jobs that I am talking about, as I have stated, Maricopa has a very highly educated population; therefore, I am not talking about minimum wage jobs.

Could you elaborate on this last sentence?

Kelly HaddadUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 4:00 PM Alert 

arkyan,

Thank you for your comments and welcome to the forum.  I realize that I often times come across as pessimistic...that is so I am never disappointed.  All kidding aside, The City of Maricopa has been working with the neighboring governments since its incorporation and in some cases since its beginning, and I would say all of those relationships are flourishing.  Of course, I want to see other forms of transprtation and alternates for our community, I just realize they take a great deal of time.  I apologize if my answers are not as positive as they should be, I am merely trying to be realistic with the community.

I can assure you that we are and will continue to foster these realtionships in order to facilitate the changes that we need for our community.  I can also assure you that we will not concede to defeat...we will be successful in this venture in do time.

 

Thank You,

KH

Kelly HaddadUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 4:04 PM Alert 

Posted By drummer72 on 04/28/2008 11:06 PM
Can you get a QT at the corners of Honeycutt and Porter?

Sorry for the delay in responding to you.  Much like the hospital or any other business, they have to want to come, we can't force them.

Thank You,

 

KH

 

anewmanUser is Offline

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04/30/2008 6:47 PM Alert 
Well- lets see how this thread has gone-

There are over 10 serious topic questions that have been asked but not answered

The few that have been answered were done in roundabouts and conflicting statements to portray they are being answered but have actually been avoided

A few statements that go back on or attempt to cover previous statements

but mostly just typical political avoidance techniques have been used. You are correct about one thing though Kelly. Maricopa residents are educated- but obviously more educated than you thought because we can see exactly what you are trying to do here.

You have not answered any of the questions in my previous post but I am sure you will respond to this with your "Just a normal guy trying to do what is best for the community" slogan or "I am just 1 of 7" . You have posted no comments about what you will try to do specifically to change the current public perception- no agreements that what we feel is important and that you will address it. You have only really come on here to show some presence and hope to get a few votes because of it. You may have been a regular resident when you went in originally but that is no longer the case. Yes you are only 1 of 7 but you were elected to represent the people of this community- if you cannot fight the battle then we will get a different "1 of 7" in there to try.

I think the educated citizens can all tell you this thread has done more harm than good in your campaign for re-election. I know my voting options have decreased by one due to this thread.



"The jouney of life is as much in oneself' as the roads one travels"


CleanuptheCopaUser is Offline

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05/01/2008 7:57 AM Alert 
Well said anewman.

Mr Haddad, tell us what YOU will do on this council that is different than what has been done before. The council has been fairly ineffective, making questionable decisions in many peoples view. Are you going to continue what you have done in the past or is there something new you are going to try?
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05/01/2008 8:09 AM Alert 
"Would Ioanna Morfessis, Senior Economic Development Consultant be able to answer the question. We pay her $12,500 yearly in consultant fees to bring commercial development here?"

If I remember correctly Ms. Morfessis is paid significantly more than 12,500 annually. If the budget information is correct, she is paid in well over $100,000, maybe even more than $200,000 annually.


RingoUser is Offline

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05/02/2008 11:56 AM Alert 

As a Maricopa voter it is a good thing that I can read what the voted in council is working for.

Unfortunately for Mr Hadden I see nothing new (Business as usual)

Business as usual, makes know senses to me: "I do not have definitive answers" OR "I am not going to promise you that I am going to be the instant fix to the problems that we are facing.

What fix have you given?

I will work for solutions to our transportation issues, I just feel that a quicker, short term fix is to work on economic development and try to take cars off the road.

KH   "I do not have definitive answers"

You say nothing concrete, how can I vote for you when you can not tell me anything that is "REALISTIC, your words" that you can do!.

On your behalf I see you have had to defend yourself on most questions, So with that in mind tell me what you can do "REALISTIC" for this community.

What is Kelly Hadden going to do for this Community??

 


The bailout is wrong. We should not do it. My God this is the stupidest idea ever. Bush is stupid if he signs this. But he has done other stupid things
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05/03/2008 9:30 AM Alert 

 What is Kelly Hadden going to do for this Community??

 

 

More importantly what is Kelly Haddad going to do for this community?


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05/05/2008 4:18 PM Alert 
Mr. Haddad-

Are you going to answer anymore of the questions that have been submitted? Going on 5 days without a reply.

"The jouney of life is as much in oneself' as the roads one travels"


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05/06/2008 8:51 PM Alert 

Posted By anewman on 05/05/2008 4:18 PM
Mr. Haddad-

Are you going to answer anymore of the questions that have been submitted? Going on 5 days without a reply.

 

Kelly was at the city council meeting tonight with his arm in a sling.  He evidently had major surgery on his shoulder on Friday........I am sure, however, that he made sure that his packet was picked up on time :o)


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05/06/2008 9:13 PM Alert 
Now that was witty and well written. Thanks for the update. I also thought maybe he had dropped us. I wish him well in his recovery, and encourage him to get back on the forum when he is able.

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05/06/2008 9:23 PM Alert 

Oh gosh, which arm was it!!  I've been twisting his arm pretty hard trying to get him to see things my way!    

Get well soon, Kelly!

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05/07/2008 2:54 PM Alert 
Posted By luv the copa on 05/06/2008 8:51 PM

Posted By anewman on 05/05/2008 4:18 PM
Mr. Haddad-

Are you going to answer anymore of the questions that have been submitted? Going on 5 days without a reply.

 

Kelly was at the city council meeting tonight with his arm in a sling.  He evidently had major surgery on his shoulder on Friday........I am sure, however, that he made sure that his packet was picked up on time :o)

I did pick up my packet on time as I always have...Thank you all for the well wishes, I did have rotator cuff surgery on Friday and I am on the road to recovery.  I apologize for the non response of late; however, I am back and will try to get to most of your questions asap.  My shoulder has bothered me for years and yes it was Cactus Robs twisting that put me over the edge.

 

Thank You All

 

KH

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05/07/2008 3:07 PM Alert 

Posted By anewman on 04/30/2008 6:47 PM
Well- lets see how this thread has gone-

There are over 10 serious topic questions that have been asked but not answered

The few that have been answered were done in roundabouts and conflicting statements to portray they are being answered but have actually been avoided

A few statements that go back on or attempt to cover previous statements

but mostly just typical political avoidance techniques have been used. You are correct about one thing though Kelly. Maricopa residents are educated- but obviously more educated than you thought because we can see exactly what you are trying to do here.

You have not answered any of the questions in my previous post but I am sure you will respond to this with your "Just a normal guy trying to do what is best for the community" slogan or "I am just 1 of 7" . You have posted no comments about what you will try to do specifically to change the current public perception- no agreements that what we feel is important and that you will address it. You have only really come on here to show some presence and hope to get a few votes because of it. You may have been a regular resident when you went in originally but that is no longer the case. Yes you are only 1 of 7 but you were elected to represent the people of this community- if you cannot fight the battle then we will get a different "1 of 7" in there to try.

I think the educated citizens can all tell you this thread has done more harm than good in your campaign for re-election. I know my voting options have decreased by one due to this thread.

 

anewman,

I am just curious...what am I trying to do here?  I believe I have given some very specific answers.  I am not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes.  I joined this forum because I am in a campaign for re-election and I am trying to reach out to the community for support and suggestions on what needs to change.  I chose to join the forum because it seems to be the one place where opinions are expressed freely and there is probably more political discussion here than any other place.  By the way, I am just a normal guy trying to do what is best for the community, maybe you and the other posters can help me do a better job of it.

 

Thanks

 

KH

 

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