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alanfUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 12:55 PM Alert 
Big House/Big Pool/Big TVs/AC set at 81 most of the time. I weep this month.
OBG IIUser is Offline

Posts:596


08/04/2008 12:57 PM Alert 

With a 60-40 summertime split, my bill in Hidden Valley on APS TOU usually looked like this.  Also, I was on Demand Billing which means you run one or two appliances during peak at a time only in order to cut your demand KWH per hour down.

1200 KWH used

40%peak=480kwh @11.5 cents a KWH=55.20

60% off peak 720 @.04 cents a KWH=28.80

On demand factor of 5=60.00  (this dropped way down w/o the A/C fall, winter and spring to 1 or 2

Total cost was 144.00; central air, 14000gal pool and two casement A/C

Plus tax, fees and misc.

This was between 1998 and 2004.  Since have moved off grid. Total elect use for year was around 1300 dollars.

Winter time rates were even cheaper, although the service charge minimum did increase somewhat.  We were on level billing which gave us a constant 105.00 per month payment.

Domicile was single wide mobile home and had two window units in an expansion area that ran constantly all summer as build out was on south side. Also used a 6500CFM whoe house evap cooler before and after monsoons.

Heating was baseboard units and oil filled electric radiators; gas h/water and gas stove.

Somehow I feel window/casement units are cheaper as when they tank you just go to Lowes and pick up a new unit for 150 bucks or even cheaper on ebay.  Also, they allow you to run units in each room when you want, not cool whole house where you are not using space.  I got a carrier for my new house 10000 btu, heats and cools for about 105.00 plus tax casement unit on ebay.

 

 

Usage History

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APS Account #:      Service Address:
rattlesnake flats      53333 W DUNE SHADOW
 
Please select:
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Usage History (kWh)
kWh
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2000
1500
1000
500
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2336
Off Peak Usage = 1355 kWh (58%)
On Peak Usage = 981 kWh (42%)
2242
Off Peak Usage = 1332 kWh (59%)
On Peak Usage = 910 kWh (41%)
1391
Off Peak Usage = 799 kWh (57%)
On Peak Usage = 592 kWh (43%)
898
Off Peak Usage = 636 kWh (71%)
On Peak Usage = 262 kWh (29%)
1007
Off Peak Usage = 876 kWh (87%)
On Peak Usage = 131 kWh (13%)
1225
Off Peak Usage = 1043 kWh (85%)
On Peak Usage = 182 kWh (15%)
1155
Off Peak Usage = 991 kWh (86%)
On Peak Usage = 164 kWh (14%)
903
Off Peak Usage = 780 kWh (86%)
On Peak Usage = 123 kWh (14%)
784
Off Peak Usage = 589 kWh (75%)
On Peak Usage = 195 kWh (25%)
1039
Off Peak Usage = 640 kWh (62%)
On Peak Usage = 399 kWh (38%)
1938
Off Peak Usage = 1043 kWh (54%)
On Peak Usage = 895 kWh (46%)
2439
Off Peak Usage = 1249 kWh (51%)
On Peak Usage = 1190 kWh (49%)
2173
Off Peak Usage = 1184 kWh (54%)
On Peak Usage = 989 kWh (46%)
834
Off Peak Usage = 403 kWh (48%)
On Peak Usage = 431 kWh (52%)
2003 2004
Off Peak       On Peak


What me worry?


ms_attitudeUser is Offline

Posts:34


08/04/2008 1:07 PM Alert 
Well I guess mine is about right then. my usage was 3448, and my bill is 427.37. It just bites. I think I will have to start recording the meter myself.
I just went and took a reading now. on 7/23 my meter read 31945, and now it is already 33579, come on that is 1634 in just a little over a week, that seems kind of extreme. What is going on.
OBG IIUser is Offline

Posts:596


08/04/2008 1:46 PM Alert 
that works out to .1239472 cents per KWH and should include taxes, misc and service fees.

What me worry?


ms_attitudeUser is Offline

Posts:34


08/04/2008 2:01 PM Alert 
I am really begining to think I have a problem with my unit, mabey a split in the air duct or something, for today I must go to school, but tomorrow I think I will have to do some checking into the system and the duct work.
OBG IIUser is Offline

Posts:596


08/04/2008 2:12 PM Alert 
1634 per 8 days would give you a bill of 6127.5kwh for 30 day billing period

avg. .1239472 cents per KWH X6127.5 =759.48 for 30 days

cant be right; something is awry.

What me worry?


ms_attitudeUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 2:21 PM Alert 

Yea that is crazy, I need to find out what the problem is before my electric bill ends up being more than my mortgage.

OBG IIUser is Offline

Posts:596


08/04/2008 2:35 PM Alert 
you may want to read every seven days and /or go to Time of Use billling.

What me worry?


JasonYUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 2:50 PM Alert 
My bill went up $100 from last month......

"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black
JasonYUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 2:50 PM Alert 

It has been a summer hotter than normal.......


"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black
JasonYUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 2:50 PM Alert 

Turn your house up to 81-82 when you leave for work....that should help.....


"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black
RichTigUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 2:55 PM Alert 

I have 2 Boxers puppies (7months tomorrow) and they like it at 76.

ms_attitudeUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 3:03 PM Alert 

Hey your puppies are worse than my kids. Anyway I am off to school, I am going to start taking readings every week to see what is going on. And I am going to check out my duct work tomorrow.

jettasmomUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 3:43 PM Alert 
If I could afford it I would have my house at 72. That is the perfect temp for me. Instead I have to settle for 76 which seems really hot to me at time. My bill last month was 108.00 this month was 161.00. I knew it was going to be higher because during the month I had a party and like 25 people in my house, I cranked the AC down to 72 for a couple days to cool the house off. Otherwise it is 76, I do turn it to 82 during the day from about 6 - 4 and then back to 76. I dont think it makes that big of a difference. Im glad that I dont have a 400.00 bill like some of you. I bought the perfect size 1500 sq ft house.
keith701User is Offline

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08/04/2008 4:01 PM Alert 

Just seems like a rate increase. My bill went up about fifty bucks with no usage increase... 120 to 170. I have a 1500 square foot house. I have 90 percent window shades and keep most my blinds closed. A/C is set to 78 and doesn't kick on often. I also have huge celling fans in every room (only have them on when someone is in the room).

I also have some big expensive power hungry toys... brand new 60 inch plasma with a ps3 and wii that run often.

flattysgirlUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 5:46 PM Alert 

i contacted the maricopa monitor and they are looking into it. that's all they would tell me. email is maricopareporter@yahoo.com.

socrlvrUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 7:54 PM Alert 
I have tried to figure why my bill is so high for over a year. 3800 sq ft never had a bill under $250. For the past 3 months was 431.00, 462.00 now this month $580.00. We can call ED3 all we want they even agree something is odd about why my bill is so high but still have no answers. All they say is the meter is never wrong, maybe the transmission but then they would do a manual read. Has to be something here but I can't stand the house being higher than 80. So I have learned to just struggle to pay it!
jhallUser is Offline

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08/04/2008 8:05 PM Alert 
Posted By caveman on 08/02/2008 5:43 PM
Cactus Rob if you believe what you are saying I think MPD should pay you a visit to see what you are smoking. Obama has no influence on the price of electricity and his statement says nothing about raising cost.

Please join me today in helping the paranoid right see that Obama has no effect on the prices of utilities.


You claim that Obama being prez would have no effect on gas, yet you blame Bush for everything...... nice double standard


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
calievo1User is Offline

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08/04/2008 11:09 PM Alert 
The utility changes reflect the economy. Just like the cost of fuel, utility companies regulated by the public utilities commission have raised their prices. The horrible economy is not product of a democrat congress it is product of a bad governing by the previous republican congress and the current president. The republican congress would spit out a bill that costs billions of tax dollars and the republican president would sign it. This was done hundreds of times until we got to where we are. It is time for a democrat to go in and clean it all up. With all this explanation it is no wonder that the lower class goes for Obama 2-1 in the most recent polls. People are scared this is going to get worse. Once again concluding, It is not the fault of the utility companies.
asugrlUser is Offline

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08/05/2008 12:27 AM Alert 
So instead it's the fault of the past congress and the current president? And Obama or some other nice Democrat will come to the rescue and clean up this mess, saving us all lots of money in the process, because that's what Democrats are known for. What are you smoking?
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