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Subject: Gang fight at Askew Park tonight! May 15th!
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Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 8:28 AM Alert 
Posted By anewman on 05/16/2008 7:45 AM
I think someone needs to open a boxing gym and let these kids take out their aggression and differences in a healthy and fair way.

 

We have one it is called... Jane Askew Park apparently  . I think jhall has the idea. What happened to the old days of a 1 on 1 fight and that was it when it was done it was done. Also there was no weapons involved and today kids think they are adults and can understand the consequences of their actions when if fact then haven’t the slightest idea. MPD needs to stop this fast or it will only grow and get worse as this town grows. I would never want to feel I am not safe in my neighborhood or that innocent people might get caught in the middle of these issues.

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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05/16/2008 8:38 AM Alert 
Do parents have to sign a waiver before their kids pics are published from a school sporting event or something?

What about when you go to the Salsa Festival or something like that. Do those teens parents have to give permission for the photos?

Just curious about the rules here. I'd be interested to know. Maybe Maricopans should make a point of always being "armed" with their camera and we can start exposing the hoodlums that need to be exposed...

Repeat after me...
My parents are NOT to blame. I am NOT a Victim. The consequences of my actions are MY RESPONSIBILITY.
NervannaUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 8:41 AM Alert 
Let's not jump to conclusions, either. Until we know for sure what actually happened and whether it was indeed gang related, it's a bit too early to be freaking out about our city going to hell in a hand basket.
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05/16/2008 8:55 AM Alert 
Posted By Nervanna on 05/16/2008 8:41 AM
Let's not jump to conclusions, either. Until we know for sure what actually happened and whether it was indeed gang related, it's a bit too early to be freaking out about our city going to hell in a hand basket.



Agreed... But we have another 30+ hours before MPD will say anything......


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05/16/2008 8:59 AM Alert 
Posted By Hudson on 05/16/2008 8:38 AM
Do parents have to sign a waiver before their kids pics are published from a school sporting event or something?

What about when you go to the Salsa Festival or something like that. Do those teens parents have to give permission for the photos?

Just curious about the rules here. I'd be interested to know. Maybe Maricopans should make a point of always being "armed" with their camera and we can start exposing the hoodlums that need to be exposed...

 



In a word... No. You can publish them without releases.  

Being armed with a camera is always a good idea. Even a cell phone camera can be a great tool.


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05/16/2008 9:04 AM Alert 

Posted By Nervanna on 05/16/2008 8:41 AM
Let's not jump to conclusions, either. Until we know for sure what actually happened and whether it was indeed gang related, it's a bit too early to be freaking out about our city going to hell in a hand basket.

 

Good point. Sit back and relax. Maryvale was nice once too, just ask Chief Melvin.

 

 

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05/16/2008 9:11 AM Alert 
I also think much of what people hear is like telephone and is expanded on from person to person. So it will be interesting to see what the PD has to say...

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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05/16/2008 11:39 AM Alert 

Can you  trust that the MPD is going to give us the truth?  Hasn't that been a concern on other forums here?

Are there town hall meetings that all city agencies partake in that the public can attend and get these issues addressed?

Just asking----------------


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PhantomUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 12:16 PM Alert 
Folks,

I think it may be needed is the forming of "Community Watch" programs and having people patrol thier own community. Maricopa county has the "Posse" and it seems to do a good job.

I am new to Maricopa and it's problems, but talking doesn't usually get a whole lot done. Action makes things happen. Perhaps approaching the Maricopa Police Force or the Sherrif's office and requesting a volunteer assistance to the police be formed.

Just a suggestion.


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05/16/2008 12:21 PM Alert 
Block Watch time, or nightly patrols in the parks. This is a community issue, and let's nip this in the bud before it gets out of hand.

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05/16/2008 1:02 PM Alert 
I second the "block watch" idea. It's OUR Neighborhood!!
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05/16/2008 1:38 PM Alert 

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19233239&BRD=1817&PAG=461&dept_id=68561&rfi=8

The City hold monthly Public Safety meetings which have a call to the public.

 

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05/16/2008 9:32 PM Alert 

well, Posted below is the official word. It was not an altercation
What is great here is that people took notice and DID something when they thought there was an issue.
Great job, Maricopa! This is a great start!

"Citizens became alarmed due to the amount of juveniles present and that some were carrying bats," Judd said. "Investigating officers found no indication that any physical fighting had occurred. Furthermore, there was no indication that either of the groups of juveniles were gang members or gang related in any way."


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bigfatbulldogUser is Offline

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05/17/2008 8:25 AM Alert 
i group of kids is not a gang.

who wants a wii
mallardismeUser is Offline

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05/17/2008 8:55 AM Alert 
Posted By bigfatbulldog on 05/17/2008 8:25 AM
i group of kids is not a gang.



Nope, but when you suspesct it might be.... Call. Better to be safer than turn a blind eye.


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05/17/2008 4:06 PM Alert 
Posted By MaricopaKen on 05/15/2008 8:53 PM
Here are some of the kids who were back there enjoying the fight!

 

 

 

 

POS parents have POS kids.

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05/17/2008 4:39 PM Alert 

The police have released a press release saying that the kids were at the park to play ball! They said they were in a designated area. I and three other adults saw the kids on the golf course (private property) and the retention basin which is not visible from the park again, private property. I gave the police photos, we all gave the police our personal info. There are no ball fields in the park at Rancho. Why are the police painting us as paranoid adults? The kids said "Don't worry, they can't do anything to us!" Guess they are right! They seem to be running this town!

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05/17/2008 4:51 PM Alert 
I was upset to see the baseball bat. I had the terrible misfortune of witnessing a murder of a young college student. As I stepped from a restaurant back East, a guy with a bat struck another guy in the back of the head at the brain stem, I watched as the kid fall to the ground. As he laid dying in the street, his body lost control of his bodily functions and died in front of his girlfriend. I will never forget it. Why do kids have baseball bats on a golf course Officer Judd?
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05/17/2008 6:12 PM Alert 
This situation could have been completely avoided if we had a Spring Training facility that the kids could use to play ball. Go Baseball!
Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/19/2008 7:51 AM Alert 
We as the "general public" will never get the fully story from any PD department. What do you want them to say We have a gang issue so everyone be aware? They think it the sugar coat story we will believe all is well and safe. Sad that society has also gotten to the point where Children run the show. When did adults stop being Adults and turn things over to the kids? I was at the store this weekend and I watch a child (8-10 yrs old) tell his mother what she was buying him to eat (large amounts of garbage food) and when she put up a fight her and the child argued like 2 adults would and the child won. Nothing seems to get under my skin more then this when a parent doesn’t want to be the adult and lets the child do these things. That is why when they get to be 18-21 they have no job and start draining society then… because for some reason they feel it is owed to them. How is it owed to them is what I have always wondered…. Sorry I am off the soap box now

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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