Posted By NEZ on 07/20/2007 8:15 AM



I absolutely refuse to go to that bar.

I don't have a problem with bars, unless they aren't following the law. Are you going to tell me that there isn't a rumor that Ramsey's serves drunks?? Please, there are threads on here about how wasted everyone was.

I also have a problem with this; it seems by not cutting people off, he is creating a monopoly on nightime entertainment. If he created that monopoly fair in square, fine. But a law is being broken.

We all know this is true...I just am not scared to speak out against it.

Posted By CrownNCoke on 07/20/2007 8:33 AM
Never been to ramseys late at night but I think most bars have alot of drunks in attendance hence the fact that its a bar!?!? People tend to drink at bars drinking tends to lead to getting drunk. I dont understand why you would expect anything less or more.

Posted By Sinbad on 07/20/2007 8:28 AM
As Forest Gump would say..."That's about all I have to say about that"

This is DOOMED to be a YANKED thread.. lol

Posted By NEZ on 07/20/2007 8:34 AM
Sinbad, AZ State Law does not agree with you.

I realize you adore the place. So it looks like you want to look the other way. But the law exists for a reason.

1) I know you know what getting rolled is. And I know you know how is easy it is to get away with rolling somebody. Luckily we don't have a problem with that, now. But as this town grows, we might. We also have a dark alley behind the place. Total drunks + Dark Alley=Rollers Heaven.

2) I could sit on top of my roof and watch Ramsey's if I wanted to. In fact, I might tonight. I want to see the exactly zero cabs that roll out of there. There are neighborhoods right there. We all know how close the walls are to the street, and we all know how small the backyards are. What happens when a drunk smashes through a wall....and breaks some kids leg or something, while he's sleeping in his bed??

Stil a Ramsey Fansey??

Posted By NEZ on 07/20/2007 8:41 AM




If the thread gets yanked....I contact MADD.

You think I'm a pain?? MADD would suck.

Let's quit burying our heads and fix the problem.

Posted By NEZ on 07/20/2007 8:41 AM




If the thread gets yanked....I contact MADD.

You think I'm a pain?? MADD would suck.

Let's quit burying our heads and fix the problem.

Posted By Sinbad on 07/20/2007 8:46 AM





What about Native New yorker, and The Duke?(ever seen how much a golfer takes down during 18 holes?), what about the Arena?

If you are going to get M.A.D.D. Go all the way .. don't just single out one place!

Posted By maricopacabana on 07/20/2007 8:49 AM




First find a real problem. I hate to go against your vast knowledge based on 1 visit an hearsay. but I have have actually seen people get cut off at Ramseys.

If you look at the stats we don't really see a lot of DUI's in this area. On the the recent St Patty's day weekend the PCSO did a stepped up DUI patrol. They nabbed a total of 4 people.

Posted By CrownNCoke on 07/20/2007 8:48 AM
you must have been shot down to many times at Ramsey! haha

Posted By CrownNCoke on 07/20/2007 8:48 AM
you must have been shot down to many times at Ramsey! haha

Posted By Sinbad on 07/20/2007 8:53 AM





LOL...

Posted By NEZ on 07/20/2007 8:15 AM



I absolutely refuse to go to that bar.

I don't have a problem with bars, unless they aren't following the law. Are you going to tell me that there isn't a rumor that Ramsey's serves drunks?? Please, there are threads on here about how wasted everyone was.

I also have a problem with this; it seems by not cutting people off, he is creating a monopoly on nightime entertainment. If he created that monopoly fair in square, fine. But a law is being broken.

We all know this is true...I just am not scared to speak out against it.