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tds2277
Posts:49
 | | 02/06/2008 3:22 PM |
 Alert | This is from the San Fransisco Chronicle
Here is the Link
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."
- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943
Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."
Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.
According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."
Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of "new programs" require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?
Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist attack or any other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order."
The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike.
Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a "catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could include everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a single hearing on NSPD-51.
U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (HR1955), which passed the House by the lopsided vote of 404-6, would set up a commission to "examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative recommendations on combatting it.
According to commentary in the Baltimore Sun, Rep. Harman and her colleagues from both sides of the aisle believe the country faces a native brand of terrorism, and needs a commission with sweeping investigative power to combat it.
A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.
What could the government be contemplating that leads it to make contingency plans to detain without recourse millions of its own citizens?
The Constitution does not allow the executive to have unchecked power under any circumstances. The people must not allow the president to use the war on terrorism to rule by fear instead of by law.
Lewis Seiler is the president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former congressman, is executive director.
This article appeared on page B - 7 of the San Francisco Chronicle
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| | ken
Posts:546
| | 02/06/2008 3:39 PM |
Alert | Let me help you out here... first that post is WAY too long for anyone to seriously consider reading and two... your not saying anything that LampLightSniper hasn't been saying for quite some time now. If you need help finding followers here is a good link for you...
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/ | |
"Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow." -- Unknown | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:994
| | 02/06/2008 3:53 PM |
Alert | Lets all build a bunker in montana,hide from the black helicopters, and wait for the mother ship. | | | |
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| | ken
Posts:546
| | 02/06/2008 3:59 PM |
Alert | | The chemtrails will still get us... it needs to be air tight. | |
"Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow." -- Unknown | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3309
| | 02/06/2008 4:23 PM |
Alert | Of all the conspiracy theories I have read, this one (chemtrails) is the most retarded.......
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"My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:994
| | 02/06/2008 4:31 PM |
Alert | Posted By JasonY on 02/06/2008 4:23 PM
Of all the conspiracy theories I have read, this one (chemtrails) is the most retarded.......
So you will not join us in the bunker to wait for the mother ship?
Elvis and JFK will be on board. | | | |
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|  | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463
| | 02/06/2008 4:34 PM |
Alert | I have a bunker  | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645
| | 02/06/2008 4:35 PM |
Alert | I'll never understand why people defend others who committ crimes. The punishment is ALWAYS too harsh.
Just be normal and you won't end up in these concentration camps. | |
Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:994
| | 02/06/2008 4:37 PM |
Alert | Posted By LampLiteSniper on 02/06/2008 4:34 PM I have a bunker
Why, oh why, am I not surprised? | | | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463
| | 02/06/2008 4:38 PM |
Alert | | See that's the problem, normal is not defined by you or I, it's defined by the government. Wanna come play in my bunker? | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:994
| | 02/06/2008 4:42 PM |
Alert | Posted By LampLiteSniper on 02/06/2008 4:38 PM
See that's the problem, normal is not defined by you or I, it's defined by the government. Wanna come play in my bunker?
Now you're starting to scare me. | | | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463
| | 02/06/2008 4:57 PM |
Alert | | I should take a picture of my ammo stockpile, that would probly scare you. | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:994
| | 02/06/2008 5:01 PM |
Alert | Posted By LampLiteSniper on 02/06/2008 4:57 PM
I should take a picture of my ammo stockpile, that would probly scare you.
Do you have lots of 9mm. Thats what I will need if we have to bunker up when the ZOG comes for us? | | | |
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| | hastings1066
Posts:994
| | 02/06/2008 5:02 PM |
Alert | Posted By LampLiteSniper on 02/06/2008 4:57 PM
I should take a picture of my ammo stockpile, that would probly scare you.
Do you have lots of 9mm? Thats what I will need if we have to bunker up when the ZOG comes for us. | | | |
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| | missPolitick
Posts:645
| | 02/06/2008 5:07 PM |
Alert | | What kind of dynamite did you have to use to dig that bunker out here? A pick ax only got us about 1mm down with each swing for our fruit trees! A bunker sounds like fun though! It has a warm, comfy ring to it! | |
Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463
| | 02/06/2008 5:13 PM |
Alert | | Tractor darlin it does wonders. | | | |
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| | ken
Posts:546
| | 02/06/2008 5:17 PM |
Alert | | I wonder if my HOA would approve a bunker. | |
"Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow." -- Unknown | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463
| | 02/06/2008 5:22 PM |
Alert | | You're going to need a backyard larger than 20 sq. feet first. | | | |
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| | ken
Posts:546
| | 02/06/2008 5:33 PM |
Alert | | I think my backyard is big enough... I should check it out | |
"Knowledge is often mistaken for intelligence. This is like mistaking a cup of milk for a cow." -- Unknown | |
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| | IrishCream
Posts:277
| | 02/06/2008 7:31 PM |
Alert | Posted By hastings1066 on 02/06/2008 4:31 PM Posted By JasonY on 02/06/2008 4:23 PM
Of all the conspiracy theories I have read, this one (chemtrails) is the most retarded.......
So you will not join us in the bunker to wait for the mother ship? Elvis and JFK will be on board.
Elvis will be on board? I'm there!! lol 
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