mikethegoalie
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 Alert | WOW! They redid all the signs on the 347 to new, bright signs! I even seen "SLOW TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT" signs!!
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wolfpack..
Posts:228
| | 11/12/2007 7:05 AM |
Alert | | hopefully it will help | |
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Judit
Posts:205
| | 11/12/2007 9:57 AM |
Alert | | I was just wondering yesterday how come they have 2 signs next to each other. AND I saw the Slow traffic sign!!! HURRRAY!!!!!!! HOPEFULLY it will help. | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 11/12/2007 10:29 AM |
Alert | What is considered "SLOW TRAFFIC"?
Anyone that isn't doing above 65 mph? The speed limit is 65 mph... So if I am in the Left lane doing 65, does that mean the Speeders should be mad at me? | |
Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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Sinbad
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| | 11/12/2007 10:29 AM |
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Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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Jason
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| | 11/12/2007 10:37 AM |
Alert | What is considered "SLOW TRAFFIC"?
Anyone that isn't doing above 65 mph? The speed limit is 65 mph... So if I am in the Left lane doing 65, does that mean the Speeders should be mad at me?
If you aren't passing and you have any cars behind you, you need to get over. It is really that simple and it has been said over and over and over...  | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 11/12/2007 11:08 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 11/12/2007 10:37 AM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>What is considered "SLOW TRAFFIC"?
Anyone that isn't doing above 65 mph? The speed limit is 65 mph... So if I am in the Left lane doing 65, does that mean the Speeders should be mad at me?</div>
If you aren't passing and you have any cars behind you, you need to get over. It is really that simple and it has been said over and over and over... <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/smile.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Smile' align='absmiddle'></div>
So let me say it over and over and over. If you are behind me and I am going 65 mph, why should I get over .. just because you want to do 70-80 mph. That's breaking the law!
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Jason
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| | 11/12/2007 11:21 AM |
Alert | So let me say it over and over and over. If you are behind me and I am going 65 mph, why should I get over .. just because you want to do 70-80 mph. That's breaking the law!
So are you!
28-721. Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions
B. On all roadways, a person driving a vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall drive the vehicle in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
If you've got a pile of cars behind you that want to go 70-80, get over! It is so simple and better for your safety! You have no reason to constantly travel in the left lane. | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 11/12/2007 11:25 AM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 11/12/2007 11:21 AM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>So let me say it over and over and over. If you are behind me and I am going 65 mph, why should I get over .. just because you want to do 70-80 mph. That's breaking the law!</div>
So are you!
<div class='NTForums_Quote'> 28-721. Driving on right side of roadway; exceptions
B. On all roadways, a person driving a vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall drive the vehicle in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway. </div>
If you've got a pile of cars behind you that want to go 70-80, get over! It is so simple and better for your safety! You have no reason to constantly travel in the left lane.</div>
I think as a AZ citizen... it's my duty to make sure everyone is going the speed limit. So basicly you are saying it's OK to speed past everyone doing 65 mph and break the law!
Speed kills my friends... Speed kills! | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/12/2007 12:32 PM |
Alert | I think as a AZ citizen... it's my duty to make sure everyone is going the speed limit. So basicly you are saying it's OK to speed past everyone doing 65 mph and break the law!
Speed kills my friends... Speed kills!
I think it's pretty clear the law says that you are wrong. You want to say speed kills, fine, so slow down to 35 already! Until then (and even still then), you're just at a varying degree of risk and you have no legal right to impede anyone else. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/12/2007 12:34 PM |
Alert | If you were so interested in safety, you would move over, because you'd know that cars passing on the left are safer than cars passing on the right. Keep this in mind, because unless you've had your speedometer calibrated, you may be going less than 65 when your speedometer says 65. It has happened to me and I was pulled over for it. It can happen to you.
If you want to start splitting hairs about safety, then know that if your speedometer is not 100% accurate and you are blocking traffic in at even a hair less than 65 MPH, you'd be breaking three laws: Driving too slow for conditions, driving in the wrong lane, and racing (a misdemeanor). Compare that to the person that wants to go a completely reasonable 70 (and don't bring up the trite "speed kills" argument, because we have highways with 75 MPH speed limits) and is only violating one law and not even a misdemeanor at that. | |
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YZRacer
Posts:1596
| | 11/12/2007 12:38 PM |
Alert | | I did like the double signage, maybe to reitterate their point? hehe | |
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sdmphx777
Posts:0
| | 11/12/2007 12:39 PM |
Alert | | Actually according to the NHTSA 32% of traffic fatalities in 2006 were caused by speeding. So according to statistics speed does kill. | | | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/12/2007 12:43 PM |
Alert | Actually according to the NHTSA 32% of traffic fatalities in 2006 were caused by speeding. So according to statistics speed does kill.
Please link to these statistics. I'm pretty sure that the statistic is that speeding contributed to the accident was not necessarily the primary cause.
I'm not going to argue against the faster you go the higher the chance of a fatal accident, it's true. That doesn't mean it is less safe to go faster.
I'm sick and tired of having people stuck behind me with road rage just because some jerk at the front of the line won't pass. | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 11/12/2007 12:45 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 11/12/2007 12:32 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>I think as a AZ citizen... it's my duty to make sure everyone is going the speed limit. So basicly you are saying it's OK to speed past everyone doing 65 mph and break the law!
Speed kills my friends... Speed kills!</div>
I think it's pretty clear the law says that you are wrong. You want to say speed kills, fine, so slow down to 35 already! Until then (and even still then), you're just at a varying degree of risk and you have no legal right to impede anyone else.</div>
Yeah Right.. Not impeding on anyone if I am doing the Speed limit. I have the right to drive the speed limit.
So, are you saying you have the right to SPEED past me going 70-80 mph?
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Sinbad
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| | 11/12/2007 12:49 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 11/12/2007 12:34 PM
If you were so interested in safety, you would move over, because you'd know that cars passing on the left are safer than cars passing on the right. Keep this in mind, because unless you've had your speedometer calibrated, you may be going less than 65 when your speedometer says 65. It has happened to me and I was pulled over for it. It can happen to you.
If you want to start splitting hairs about safety, then know that if your speedometer is not 100% accurate and you are blocking traffic in at even a hair less than 65 MPH, you'd be breaking three laws: Driving too slow for conditions, driving in the wrong lane, and racing (a misdemeanor). Compare that to the person that wants to go a completely reasonable 70 (and don't bring up the trite "speed kills" argument, because we have highways with 75 MPH speed limits) and is only violating one law and not even a misdemeanor at that.</div>
ha ha ha ha ha ha....You're Funny. Very Funny!!!!!
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/12/2007 12:49 PM |
Alert | Some data: Arizona Crash Statistics from NHTSA
45% of fatalities were speeding related. You have a greater chance of being killed by something other than speeding. NOTE: NHTSA does not say that speed caused the accident. You'll also note that 58% of fatalities are because of roadway departures (someone left the roadway).
Accidents are complex. To say that speed was the absolute cause of any given accident is usually difficult to say. That's why reports say that speed was a factor in the accident. By all means, if you feel safer at the speed limit, go the speed limit. But do not pretend that it is about speed if you are going to clog up traffic which is a known cause of setting off road rage. If you were making the decision for safety, you would be driving in the right lane. It is not worth it, as you say. | |
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Sinbad
Posts:3046
| | 11/12/2007 12:51 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Jason on 11/12/2007 12:43 PM
<div class='NTForums_Quote'>Actually according to the NHTSA 32% of traffic fatalities in 2006 were caused by speeding. So according to statistics speed does kill.</div>
Please link to these statistics. I'm pretty sure that the statistic is that speeding <i>contributed to</i> the accident was not necessarily the primary cause.
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No.... but the end affect is still the same... DEATH.... | |
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Jason
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| | 11/12/2007 12:51 PM |
Alert | ha ha ha ha ha ha....You're Funny. Very Funny!!!!!
But very true, strictly speaking. | |
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Jason
Posts:3378
| | 11/12/2007 12:52 PM |
Alert | No.... but the end affect is still the same... DEATH....
And what I'm trying to say is: If you're concerned about safety, then don't block traffic in. That is racing and it is a misdemeanor. You don't condone racing, do you? | |
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