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Reagan
Posts:741
 | | 07/12/2007 12:44 PM |
 Alert | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070711/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/summer_terror_threats
Our Homeland Security Chief says its his "Gut" feeling there is going to be a terrorist attack? This is what our number 1 terrorist watcher can come up with? Gut feeling? I hope his department is run by more sound facts than "Gut feeling."
They say the number of Al Queida has increased to levels from before 9/11. What are we in Iraq and Afganistan for then? Because someone had a gut feeling?
I think it is time to take the gloves off and start carpet bombing until these people can see it our way. And if they can't, we can give a free ride to Allah, and let Allah sort it all out. | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
| | DesertDweller
Posts:2564
| | 07/12/2007 2:34 PM |
Alert | What Chertoff is doing is throwing up a smokescreen for Bush. If everyone thinks there is an imminent threat, it will take some of the attention off of him. I was in Danang when Nixon decided to start carpet-bombing Hanoi. It sure as hell got their attention.
We need to not only eliminate the training camps and the governments that host them, we need to get rid of scumbags like Victor Bout, who have, for years, supplied anyone with the money any type of weapon they would like to get their hands on. Hell, this guy has even worked for the United States at times. | |
Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | rex
Posts:300
| | 07/12/2007 2:50 PM |
Alert | "Gut feeling". lol. Crystal Ball? The only one I like from Bush's Administration is Robert Gates. He's the only one that said who was fighting whom in Iraq after his first visit there. I doubt Bush gave him any power to fix things.
I agree Reagan. Start carpet bombing everyone. Let's include the northern section of Pakistan where Al Qaeda is supposedly regrouping. What did Bush say? If you harbor terrorists we will come and get you. Let's get 'em! Instead of shaking hands and making deals with the head of Pakistan (terrorist harborors), let's do the wild thing!
The best thing that can happen for Bush's popularity numbers is for another terrorist attack to occur. No one wants that. I hope neither he nor his administration want that either.
Nuke 'em. Let Allah and the 70 virgins sort them out. That's what I say. What do you say. | | | |
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| | LampLiteSniper
Posts:463
| | 07/12/2007 6:11 PM |
Alert | | I'm sure there will be another attack, people are really looking down on BUsh now and he needs to do something to reassure the sheeple. Blow up something good this time Bushy we need to invade another country, I'm getting bored stateside. | | | |
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| | Reagan
Posts:741
| | 07/12/2007 6:18 PM |
Alert | I am with you. I am negitive on the war, not because I am anti-war, or don't think we are there for the right reasons. I think Bush is trying to fight a PC war, and it doesn't work with people from the 7th century.
Bush has used his political capital on the wrong things (immigration). He should have used it to give North Korea and Iran the nukes they have been looking for, from about 35,000 feet. Show them we mean business, get them and their interests out of Iraq, win the war, and get home. It doesn't take this long. Drop the PC war and war profiteering, and we are out of there in a year. And not because the liberals brought us home.
I do think we need to give the surge a chance to work. The full number has only been in Iraq about 3-4 weeks. Already the Iraqi civilian death rates are down about 1/3. I say wait until September and see where we are. We can't judge the benckmarks from 3 weeks of its full effects. If we are in the same boat come September, pull our ground troops out, and use those multi-million dollar planes we have to good use. And not just in Iraq, but in Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Afganistan, and anything else ending in "istan." | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2564
| | 07/12/2007 6:29 PM |
Alert | | Maybe we should contract with Israel to manage the war for us. They would take the gloves off. Set of an IED? Whatever town that was in, we take out the power station. Bomb a convoy? Well, you're going to have to live without a water treatment plant too. If you still have people left who are not carrying water buckets from the river, and they happen to blow up something else, well, that just cost you your hospital. Keep going until people are living like they did in the Stone Age. Neighbors wouldn't tolerate the terrorists because they would be the ones paying for thier behavior. | |
Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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|  | Lolie
Posts:0
| | 07/12/2007 7:46 PM |
Alert | | Used to be a Bush supporter.....he's been terrible for the Republican party. He's out of mulligans. Reagan wish you were back!! Here's hoping Rudy or Thompson can get things back in the right direction. | | | |
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| | Reagan
Posts:741
| | 07/13/2007 8:34 AM |
Alert | With as bad as Bush is, I can see where you would hope for Rudy or Thompson. However, I don't think either of them is the answer.
I saw a poll, (I will try to find the link,) that said close to 90% of register voters would vote for an independent, if a good candiate would come forward. I don't know who could come forward, but I hope someone does. I personally don't see much difference between Rudy and Hillary. It would be another vote for the lesser of two evils | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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| | Jazz
Posts:0
| | 07/13/2007 9:50 AM |
Alert | Reagan......you're absolutely right, we're all looking for someone who is'nt alligned with either one of these 2 parties. I'd love to see a grass roots, common sense candidate come along. People are so fed up, they'd vote them in.
I just hope the money that controls both of these parties won't allow that to happen. | | | |
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| | Reagan
Posts:741
| | 07/13/2007 10:44 AM |
Alert | | You are right Jazz. I've said it before. We don't need a Democrat or Republican, Demican or Republicrat. We need a LEADER. So far neither party has one. Great time for someone else to come forward. | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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| | LadyAmalthea
Posts:86
| | 07/13/2007 12:58 PM |
Alert | "Gut feeling?" Bah, humbug!
Don't get me wrong - I'm all for following your gut feelings when they're a genuine response to a genuine threat. But creating artificial fear in the American people for the sole purpose of creating a "smoke screen" is just wrong.
May we suffer another terrorist attack? Sure, we might (key word "might"). But don't we also create terrorists ourselves with all this hoopla? Some of you might remember that the Oklahoma City bombing was perpetrated by a so-called American terrorist! Does that diminish 911? Nope. But have we done a single thing to make sure we don't create another Timothy McVeigh? Nope - we go to war with the wrong country for the wrong reason, spend billions upon billions, if not trillions of dollars on that - while the teachers and social workers who help mold the minds of our youth go on woefully underpaid. Do adults who need mental health care get the care they need? Some fortunate few do, if they can afford it - but many do not. Our national priorities, are, to put it mildly, messed up.
You run more of a risk of getting run down on the 347, of your husband killing you (yes, abuse happens), or dying of lung cancer from the cigarettes you have the right to smoke than of dying from a terrorist attack.
I'm not saying prohibit things like cigarettes or handguns (though I hate the former, and am the proud owner of the latter). I'm quite libertarian in my political beliefs. If you want to personally put yourself at risk of death through your behavior, go for it. But for the government to use scare tactics to make Americans think it's going to happen from some foreign nutbag to promote Bushie's agenda is downright obscene, IMHO.  | |
"Ain't nothin' but a barn dance, sugar. Ain't nothin' but a round de round" - Sara Tidwell and the High Tops | |
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| | CrownNCoke
Posts:810
| | 07/13/2007 12:59 PM |
Alert | | well since we are supposedly trying lower our stock of nukes lets kill two birds with one stone. By Nuking the crap out of all Afghanistan, Iraq, and Iran would definitely take away any gut feeling that a terrorists might attack and lower our stock of Nukes haha hope this makes since just got back from lunch and its friday so i am not all | |
The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed.
Carl Jung | |
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| | rattle2
Posts:133
| | 07/21/2007 2:19 PM |
Alert | Hmmm....interesting.......carpet bombing, nukes, buckets of water, Allah sorting them out, I can't say that I disagree with much of what has been said.
I was very disappointed when we didn't destroy the Iraqi elite army. We stopped and showed mercy when we should have continued to march and destroy the Iraqi elite army. I believe that action is still damaging us today.
G.W. is protecting "his" party. He is at the end of his term and he seems to want a "good" historical review in the coming years. Although I'm not sure that it will be as favorable as he would like.
I would like to see us "defoliate" Afghanistan (opium). Surgically remove any terrorist nests in Pakistan. Don't wait for their leaders to "take care of the problem". They can't. Destroy even suspected terrorist sympathetic groups in Iraq. With no warning.
My $0.02 
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Sometimes we just make life to difficult.
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2564
| | 07/21/2007 4:55 PM |
Alert | Yeah - I'm sure we have some Agent Orange left.
These people will never take care of their problem because they're religions fanatics. They actually believe this crap about Allah. Not only that, they're desperate. They know from the time they are born that they will never have anything material-wise. Their stupid religion has suppressed any economy they might have. They could have a robust oil economy, but even the proceeds from that are being misused. So, to them, blowing themselves up in a crowd of innocent people is about as good as it's going to get for them.
We need to annex the region. Colonize it. Govern them because they can't govern themselves. Either that, or bomb them into the dark ages where they won't be a problem for us or anyone else for a long while. | |
Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | nitwit
Posts:95
| | 07/21/2007 9:14 PM |
Alert | | Maybe the "gut feeling" is better indicator than the military intelligence that was used to determine that there were WMD in Iraq! Just a thought........ | | | |
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2564
| | 07/22/2007 5:51 AM |
Alert | There may have been. It doesn't matter. We didn't find them, so they could be anyplace. There was almost zero justification for an invasion of Iraq. There were a whole myriad of things we could do to effect a regime change. We had the opportunity to have the Kurds take care of Saddam in the 90's and we left them high and dry in Bay of Pigs fashion.
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Stupid should hurt!
Desert Dweller - Senior Member - Posts: 2982 - Joined: Feb 2006 | |
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| | rattle2
Posts:133
| | | caveman
Posts:1231
| | 07/22/2007 3:10 PM |
Alert | | These gut feelings and raising the terror warning sure happened a lot before the last election. After the election was over it all died down, hmmmmm. Good ol fear mongering at its best. | | | |
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| | Reagan
Posts:741
| | 07/23/2007 8:37 PM |
Alert | | Did you also notice their was a lot of media about high gas prices right before the election, and everyone crying out about them? Now they are even higher, and their isn't much media at all about it. Time to get rid of the large SUV. $85 a fill up isn't cool at all. | |
Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.
Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970 | |
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