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magnetic
Posts:111


 | | 08/14/2007 6:48 PM |
Alert | I was sick to my stomach when I read that. The dog was left in a police car for 12 hours. That cop should be arrested for animal cruelty or at least terminated from the force. To make things worse he was in charge of the K9 unit. What a jerk!
Sheriff's office plans to investigate police dog death Eugene Scott The Arizona Republic Aug. 14, 2007 03:25 PM
The Maricopa County Sheriffs Office will launch its own investigation into the death of a Chandler police dog that died after being left in a hot patrol car by his handler.
"The Sheriff's office is investigating to determine if any criminal charges are warranted," said Mike Anthony Scerbo, a spokesman for the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.
Bandit died after his handler, Chandler police Sgt. Tom Lovejoy, left him unattended for more than 12 hours in a his patrol car after he returned home from an extra-duty shift.
Sgt. Rick Griner, Chandler police spokesman, also confirmed the Sheriff's office will do its own criminal investigation. The incident happened at Lovejoy's home, which is in an unincorporated part of the county.
On Tuesday Chandler police placed Lovejoy on administrative leave, a day after saying he would remain on duty. Griner said the Chandler department would continue its own internal investigation.
Lovejoy forgot about Bandit after returning home Saturday about 9:15 a.m. and learning his teenage son had been in a serious car accident. Lovejoy's son did not sustain any injuries, Griner said.
Chandler police and the city of Chandler have received a significant number of calls, many of them threatening or harassing, since news of the dog's death was made public.
"It sure has been blown out of proportion," he said. "But we know that we will get phone calls and hate mail. That's part of the job."
Lovejoy, Griner said, is "grieving the loss of his dog."
Dan Couch, Chandler Fire battalion chief, said the response to Bandit's death, which included numerous online blog posts attacking the officer, was extreme and insensitive to the officer and his family.
"We got a bigger response to the dog's death than we did about the baby that died in a car in June," he said.
Kyle Brown, 30, left his daughter, Amberlee Elizabeth, in his vehicle June 28 in Chandler. Her core body temperature reached 109 degrees. She died the next day.
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| | J9Design
Posts:271


 | | 08/14/2007 6:50 PM |
Alert | | Did you happen to read that he pulled an extra shift AND he was notified his son was in a serious car accident, with no info on how he was??? The article stated that this was a BIG factor in what happened. Yes this was tragic, but c'mon people! | | Formerly known as *werunohu* !!
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| | wolfpack..
Posts:228


 | | 08/14/2007 6:50 PM |
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already posted in the pets section,, | | Senior Member 406 posts Joined May 2005 | |
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| | Jason
Posts:3378


 | | 08/14/2007 6:55 PM |
Alert | Posted By magnetic on 08/14/2007 6:48 PM I was sick to my stomach when I read that. The dog was left in a police car for 12 hours. That cop should be arrested for animal cruelty or at least terminated from the force. To make things worse he was in charge of the K9 unit. What a jerk!
Posted By J9Design on 08/14/2007 6:50 PM Did you happen to read that he pulled an extra shift AND he was notified his son was in a serious car accident, with no info on how he was??? The article stated that this was a BIG factor in what happened. Yes this was tragic, but c'mon people!
See what I mean? Two sides to every story. But go ahead, get out the tar and feathers, that seems to be all the rage lately.
"We got a bigger response to the dog's death than we did about the baby that died in a car in June," he said.
Proof that people go too far with pets. Pets are not people! | | Joined: Jul 2005 | |
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| | GilaGuy
Posts:789


 | | 08/14/2007 7:09 PM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 08/14/2007 6:55 PM "We got a bigger response to the dog's death than we did about the baby that died in a car in June," he said. Proof that people go too far with pets. Pets are not people!
I think part of what generated this massive outpouring of sadness was the fact that this was a police K9 who was accidentally harmed by his police officer handler. Babies locked in cars are tragedies, but they've happened before. Something like this incident, with its specifics, is without precedent.
This is just a tragedy, plain and simple. I know the dog is not a person, but I was fortunate to have come into contact with Bandit once before and I sure wish this hadn't happened. | | | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1641


 | | 08/14/2007 8:52 PM |
Alert | | he forgot about his PARTNER???? he is responsible for another officer's death. Yeah, they consider the K9's to be officers. Tragic, but preventable. Leaving your purse in the car is one thing, but a dog (or a child)? awful! | | If you can't spot the loser, it might be you
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| | thiskiss
Posts:334


 | | 08/14/2007 11:10 PM |
Alert | Posted By YZRacer on 08/14/2007 8:52 PM
he forgot about his PARTNER???? he is responsible for another officer's death. Yeah, they consider the K9's to be officers. Tragic, but preventable. Leaving your purse in the car is one thing, but a dog (or a child)? awful!
Exactly! He killed his partner. I mean I understand that dogs aren't human beings but if this would have been a regular Joe there would have been all kinds of things going on in the news. Just because he works for the police department doesn't mean anything. What kind of moron do you have to be to leave a living/ breathing "creature" in a car in 110 degree weather. Its just like saying oh well I forgot about my child in the backseat in her carseat because she was silently asleep. I truely understand what it is like to work a double shift/ overnighter. I also know that things come up, like you child in a very bad car accident, but it doesn't justify killing your "partner." Even if it was just an hour or two at the most, but come on twelve hours. This is ridiculous. If I was in charge of this man he would never see a K9 officer again! People go through great lengths to train these dogs as do the actual dogs. Just my opinion. Not looking to start arguing with anybody here. | | | |
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| | CODEBLEU
Posts:291

 | | 08/15/2007 8:25 AM |
Alert | Dog is Mans BEST FRIEND! They are always right beside us that we sometimes take them for granted just as we sometimes take our personal relationships for granted. This Police Officer apparently had alot on his mind and forgot that he had left the dog in the car. I believe he had a routine of taking the dog out of the car upon arriving home and securing his partners safety before relaxing himself. On this particular day he had the emotional stress of his son being in an auto accident and it literally took him out of his routine. He Forgot!
Give the man a break. He is probably overwhelmed with guilt and will live with it the rest of his life. We have all made mistakes in our lives at one time or another. Fortunately the outcomes did not cost the life of our dogs or children but this man was not as fortunate with his mistake. He already pays a price; he surely does not need to be chastized by the likes of us perfect people. (If the investigation shows any malicious wrong doing then of course its a totally different story) This is a very sad story.
I will say a prayer for Bandit today and tost his accomplishments with none other than my Cognac and Cigar. ----Commander Codebleu------- | | | |
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| | RocketRoy
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 | | 08/19/2007 9:06 PM |
Alert | | I would like to say thank you to all of who are supporting this police officer. Yes the event is horrible but, dont forget all of the years of dedicated service he has provided to our community. To be a Sgt in charge of a K9 unit he must have been a police officer for many years. Unfortunately most citizens do not think about the sacrifices our public safety and military have made. All they think about is what they hear on the news and want to see people hung out out dry. Use your brain and some compassion once in a while! | | | |
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| | mallardisme
Posts:611


 | | 08/19/2007 11:47 PM |
Alert | Actually, I think what upsets most people besides the fact that a dog was killed in a hot car is the fact that if anyone else did this, they would be in jail. (Sherriff Joe states his feelings on this often) The officer knows better and goes out on calls weekly regarding children and animals in a hot car. The people responsible are held responsible... Except in this case where the perpetrator was the same person that would make an arrest if it were anyone else. My heart goes out to the officer and his family. My heart goes out to anyone that experiences this type of accident. I just wish the legal system was a little more even handed on the justice side.
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| | AzSandSlinger
Posts:742


 | | 08/20/2007 8:44 AM |
Alert | I think what upsets most people besides the fact that a dog was killed in a hot car is the fact that if anyone else did this, they would be in jail.
ya, right.. If it was anyone else, they would have buried their dog in the back and no one would have ever known. End of story..
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| | 06woman
Posts:356


 | | 08/20/2007 10:21 AM |
Alert | | What I think is that there is no really good or valid excuse for any of this regardless of double shifts or son in a serious car accident. I don't excuse him nor do I excuse anyone who leaves another living being in a hot car for whatever reason. | | "Happiness is a journey...not a destination."
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| | Sinbad
Posts:3053


 | | 08/20/2007 10:28 AM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 08/14/2007 6:55 PM Posted By magnetic on 08/14/2007 6:48 PM I was sick to my stomach when I read that. The dog was left in a police car for 12 hours. That cop should be arrested for animal cruelty or at least terminated from the force. To make things worse he was in charge of the K9 unit. What a jerk! Posted By J9Design on 08/14/2007 6:50 PM Did you happen to read that he pulled an extra shift AND he was notified his son was in a serious car accident, with no info on how he was??? The article stated that this was a BIG factor in what happened. Yes this was tragic, but c'mon people! See what I mean? Two sides to every story. But go ahead, get out the tar and feathers, that seems to be all the rage lately. "We got a bigger response to the dog's death than we did about the baby that died in a car in June," he said. Proof that people go too far with pets. Pets are not people!
I can see PETA reading the boards now going after Jason!!!lol... | | Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem. ______________________________________ *************************************** San Diego Super Chargers! GO!!! Joined old forum March 2006 Post count: 3068 + these | |
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| | JasonY
Posts:3330


 | | 08/20/2007 3:35 PM |
Alert | | Lock him in his car for 12 hours........ | | "My favorite health club is the International House of Pancakes" -- Lewis Black | |
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| | TortosaGuy
Posts:713


 | | 08/20/2007 3:39 PM |
Alert | | i agree with mallard and 06woman 100%.......just because one has extenuating circumstances this does not mean that you get the freedom to get off scott free after participating in the killing of an animal...whether intentional or not...some form of punishment other then him feeling bad for himself needs to occur | | *formerly known as inyrfce2* Senior Member Posts: 797 Joined: Dec 2006 | |
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| | Fritzydoodle
Posts:1023


 | | 08/20/2007 4:01 PM |
Alert | | I'm curious - why are some people both here and on other sites like the AZ Republic calling for blood/firing/baking in the car etc from this police officer and not much has been said about the family who's child drowned in a backyard pond. Don't get me wrong - that family has my complete sympathy in what I can only imagine is the most horrific event of their lives. As I said - what makes this mistake made by the officer any different? Both are tragic accidents brought on my an unforeseen set of circumstances. | |
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| | DesertDweller
Posts:2564


 | | 08/20/2007 5:58 PM |
Alert | We seem to have lost our compassion as a society. Accidents happen. Accidents are not crimes. Some things happen that are just nobody's fault.
It would be one thing if the officer had been drunk and left his dog in the car. That's criminal negligence. It would be one thing if the parents of a child were inside the house taking bong hits while their child was floating face down in the pool. That's criminal behavior as well.
But when mom's busy with dinner and dad thinks mom is watching the child, that's not criminal behavior. It may not be model parenting, but it's not deserving of criminal charges. Neither is forgetting that you left your dog in the car, thinking that you had put him in his kennel. | | Stupid should hurt!
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| | TortosaGuy
Posts:713


 | | 08/20/2007 7:15 PM |
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| | its simply neglect...and you can bring someone up on charges for neglect...whether it be an isolated incident or something thats been happening over time...just my opinion.... | | *formerly known as inyrfce2* Senior Member Posts: 797 Joined: Dec 2006 | |
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| | mallardisme
Posts:611


 | | 08/21/2007 11:38 PM |
Alert | Posted By DesertDweller on 08/20/2007 5:58 PM We seem to have lost our compassion as a society. Accidents happen. Accidents are not crimes. Some things happen that are just nobody's fault.
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That is my point. Sometimes accidets happen. My issue is not with this officer. My issue is with the justice system. If YOU had this happen, you would be in jail with Sheriff Joe personally explaining to you the horrors of what you did. If you are a police officer, you are forgiven.
Either person would feel just as bad about the death of a family member, but one is OK and one is prosecuted to the extent of the law.
The officer involved is a wonderfull person. (His record shows that, without question) YOU, that works a double shift and takes the dog out, in similar, would not be judged on your merits. YOU would be added to to a judicial docked and become just a number. THAT is what I have an issue with.
If the law is valid, it must be valid for all. If there are exceptions, then they must be valid for all also. | | Let X=X | |
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| | Mr.RandyWatson
Posts:13

 | | 08/22/2007 12:20 AM |
Alert | Posted By Jason on 08/14/2007 6:55 PM Posted By magnetic on 08/14/2007 6:48 PM I was sick to my stomach when I read that. The dog was left in a police car for 12 hours. That cop should be arrested for animal cruelty or at least terminated from the force. To make things worse he was in charge of the K9 unit. What a jerk! Posted By J9Design on 08/14/2007 6:50 PM Did you happen to read that he pulled an extra shift AND he was notified his son was in a serious car accident, with no info on how he was??? The article stated that this was a BIG factor in what happened. Yes this was tragic, but c'mon people! See what I mean? Two sides to every story. But go ahead, get out the tar and feathers, that seems to be all the rage lately. "We got a bigger response to the dog's death than we did about the baby that died in a car in June," he said. Proof that people go too far with pets. Pets are not people!
The dude left the Dog in the freaking car for 12 hours. There are no excuses for that. He should be fired and do jail time. I would hate to be one of his kids. | | | |
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