Fritzydoodle
Posts:958


 | | 09/13/2007 3:52 PM |
Alert | OK, I have sucker tattoo'd somewhere. When I was at my vets office this morning following up on our toad licker, someone had brought in a schauzer/jack russell cross to be PST. It's only a six-month old PUPPY!
The owner (sic) only had the dog for a week and could not deal with it any more. Supposedly she tried everything but couldn't find anything the dog would eat - so her response was to PST. That owner is the term for a female dog.
Obviously, the vet did not put her to sleep. I'm giving it a trial run to see how she does with my 2 dogs. Anyone have suggestions on what to feed her if she won't eat? And how to socialize two jack russell females? I know they can be VERY TERRITORIAL. And Kalie is that.
And the last thing - we don't know how many homes the poor thing has been in and whether she was abused but we think it's a possibility. She is so terrified, she hasn't stopped trembling and hiding. Ideas on how to help her be comfortable?
I can't stand people like that. "I can't deal with this animal - put it to sleep" Jeesh! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/mad.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Mad' align='absmiddle'> | |
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rescuemom
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 | | 09/13/2007 4:06 PM |
Alert | | My suggestion is to crate the little thing to give her a "safe" place to relax and a comfort stuffed toy. Some boiled chicken mixed with white rice is usually suggested to try to entice them to eat. I'm sure you'll get plenty more advice from more experienced people. Thanks for rescuing this furchild. Your love will calm her in no time. | | | |
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sarahc
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 | | 09/13/2007 4:23 PM |
Alert | OMG... what are people thinking? I wonder if they would put there kids to sleep if they didn’t behave exactly they way they wanted.
I have a beagle that will eat until he explodes! I have never had to entice him to eat but my mom little dog some times throws a fit and she has to put a raw egg in his food along with something yummy like bologna to get him to eat his kibble.
I agree with the crate to get the little one out of the way from the other two dogs and until his nerves calm down.
I am glad that you were there... they say the best pets are the ones that find you....
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Tigg
Posts:549


 | | 09/13/2007 4:28 PM |
Alert | I second the crate suggestion - give the girl a crate to nest in. Give her a toy and a blankie and let her hide in there all she wants to start out.
In 1 week, they couldn't possibly have tried "everything" to get her to eat! There are hundreds of dog foods out there. To even start to make that claim, they either switched foods daily (which is certainly not going to convince the dog to eat!) or they only tried 1 or 2 foods (which is hardly anywhere near everything). My guess would be that they maybe switched the food up so often the poor dog didn't know what was going to be put down in front of her and may have had an upset tummy from all the switching of foods.
First, I'd say just be consistant long enough to see if she really is picky or trying to get used to a new food. If she really is picky, try the chicken and rice that was suggested (will help if she has an upset tummy from what I've heard) or try putting gravy on the dog food to get her attention. Then. . . try a new food if that doesn't work. But mostly, give her tummy a chance to settle down from who knows what she was being given. Maybe give her the regular food with the chicken & rice mixed in - that way, if it's an upset tummy, she has the option of the chicken, but still has the regular food to get used to. | | | |
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rescuemom
Posts:353


 | | 09/13/2007 4:29 PM |
Alert | | Fritzy, I have a small crate you can borrow indefinately, I haven't had to use it for a while. | | | |
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rescuemom
Posts:353


 | | 09/13/2007 4:33 PM |
Alert | | and also I'm giving Ruby Nutro Lamb & Rice small bites right now, so if you'd like a few meals worth to try before investing in a bunch of new food I'd be glad to give that too. | | | |
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CRACKER
Posts:35

 | | 09/13/2007 4:46 PM |
Alert | | Re: what to feed your dog. My dog had a sensitive stomach when he was a puppy. He is a pure bred yellow lab. We tried all kinds of different dog foods, and spent a lot of money doing it. The only thing that ended up working was white rice and boiled lean ground beef. It's a pain to make every day, but the dog has been fine ever since...Good luck | | | |
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Pet Social Worker
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 | | 09/13/2007 4:50 PM |
Alert | | I totally agree w/ rescuemom. A quiet, soft, safe haven for that little girl is what she needs right now. Lots of love & TLC for both the dogs too. | | | |
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Takingabreak
Posts:311


 | | 09/13/2007 5:07 PM |
Alert | I have a dog that is very picky also. My vet recommended yogurt and rice to begin with then slowly mix in dry dog food. My sweet dog will now eat, but won't come until she sees the yogurt container.
When I brought home my 2nd dog, she was so scared and afraid to even lay down. My sweet dog, Belle went over to Tink, nuzzled her face and somehow calmed her down. Within an hour Tink was following Belle around, going in and out the dog door, and laying next to her in the kennel.
Thank you for saving that dog's life.
Ohh, I just had a thought, could there be something wrong with your dogs teeth or mouth, maybe a sore that hurts when she eats?
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Fritzydoodle
Posts:958


 | | 09/13/2007 5:23 PM |
Alert | Well, she's sitting in my lap at work right now, licking my neck 
Thank you for the offer of the crate and food. I have a LARGE dog crate in the barn. I'll see if I can clean it up and make a nice home for her. If it won't work - I'll let you know.
The vets office gave her an exam, her first shots (assuming she hasn't had any) and a brand new collar. They could find no physical reason for her not eating - no problems with teeth or mouth. I could have been the food or ??? I normally free feed IAMS dry and suppliment with a modified BARF diet. I cook the bones and veggies a bit. My dogs love it!
I'm thinking enviroment had a lot to do with her fear and nervousness. I'll see if Desert Dweller will post a picture for me of her when I take some later tonight. I haven't figured out the how yet.
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Mommystacey
Posts:180

 | | 09/13/2007 9:53 PM |
Alert | | Try feedin some baby food like chicken or beef then ad it to the normal ffo dyou want her to eat of she likes it. She may just need time to get used to you | | | |
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Mommystacey
Posts:180

 | | 09/13/2007 9:53 PM |
Alert | | Try feedin some baby food like chicken or beef then ad it to the normal ffo dyou want her to eat of she likes it. She may just need time to get used to you, but that is really awesome of you to try for the puppys sake!!! | | | |
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Jerseygirl
Posts:319


 | | 09/13/2007 10:58 PM |
Alert | We too just aquired our 4th bundle of joy. He was a stray beagle wandering near my daughter's work. She called me and, well, i'm sure you know the rest. We are now old pro's at it. He too (his name is Little Guy)was not eating for a couple of days, but now that he is comfortable, he's eating well. We feed our group Innova products, and Little Guy is just loving the Evo little bites for puppies. This stuff rocks!! The coats on all our babies are looking so healthy and they seem more alert. And I don't even have to add anything to it. It's taking some time, but I think we are now complete. 4 people=4 doggies. I wouldn't want to live in a world without dogs. See my Little Guy here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6ffvuqt&s=1 | | Mobile Custom Auto Repair "We Come To You!" 520-280-3775 | |
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Fritzydoodle
Posts:958


 | | 09/14/2007 9:04 AM |
Alert | Well so far so good. My older dog - sniff, ok you're a dog. I'll go lay down now. The year old JRT - I want to PLAY - NOW!!!! The newbie - SAVE ME!!!
I decided not to crate her last night. In a couple of hours she made remarkable progress in becoming a dog. The big thing she's starved for affection. The good news is she's wagging her tail, jumping on furniture - even slept next to me in bed. The JRT pinned on one side of me... the newbie pinned on the other side... Ok girls I need to turn over 
Eating - we're working on that. She did eat small amounts of everything I've tried. From what I see, she doesn't know HOW to eat. The food she ate the most of was puppy food moistened and allowed to mush - the way you'd start feeding a 4 week old pup. Rice and meat, dry kibble, canned dog food - she doesn't seem to know how to pick it up in her mouth and chew. Hopefully the other dogs will show her how its done.
There is one thing that concerns me and I will be talking to the vet hosp where I got her. Her urine smells funny. Sweet funny. I'm hoping it's ketonuria from being slighting undernurished and not something more serious like diabetes.
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Tempting Fait1
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 | | 09/14/2007 11:30 AM |
Alert | I'm sure time and perserverance will win out with her!! Maybe try starting with the baby food she's used to and add more and more kibble in it slowly? Mine likes to sleep pinned next to me too, and when I move he MOANS! | | The red head is BACK!! (and still mouthy)
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rescuemom
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 | | 09/14/2007 11:38 AM |
Alert | | I'm so glad your other dogs gave a warm reception, that's probably the biggest help you could have gotten. I think the rest is just time. I'd like to suggest Chipper as a name. The Jack Russel RCA mascots name was Nipper and when they went new electronics they added a pup to the advertising and called him Chipper (chip off the old block, microchip) I always thought it was a cute name. | | | |
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njparks
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 | | 09/15/2007 1:28 PM |
Alert | I hope it's not diabetes. That's a tough one to deal with.
A lot of folks in agility have Jacks...shows you what kind of energy level they have. I think the schnauzer can be a bit easier to deal with. Keeping her busy will be your main task...that and giving her attention. Poor thing.
Neutering is a must, but I understand it "does in" the female hormones and can bring out the more male hormones. Just hope they continue to get along! May want to bring in a trainer to assess the situation before something escalates. If she is submissive to your other female, keep it that way. Don't treat her like a Queen...make sense?
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Fritzydoodle
Posts:958


 | | 09/15/2007 5:01 PM |
Alert | OK, it's been just about 48 hours. EVERY fear I had was unfounded. Whoever had her did not understand dogs!
She's just fine with our JRT. They trade who is the boss of the moment. It was heartwarming to watch the two youngsters rolling around in the grass playing! We found out she will fetch if you throw a squeeky toy - but she won't bring it back (yet). She just runs around with it in her mouth. She's housebroken if you pay attention and offer to take her out periodically.
She still isn't eating enough to my liking, but it is better. Dry kibble is what throws her for a loop. Last night she ate part of a can of beef slices in gravy. NOT from the dish - but from my hand. AND... a bone from the t-bones we had for dinner! This morning she had left over meatballs, sausage and a big of spaghetti with a few bits of kibble mixed in. She eats VERY slowly - not like the others. But it's a start. She even ate a "good girl cookie" (milkbone treat) when she came in from going potty!
The funny part of the story - I thought I was having a killer hotflash last night... nope. I had TWO dogs under the covers, lying up against me. I was baking! They on the other hand were comfortable 
The obvious change in her to show she's accepting this as home and not afraid - she's relaxed her ears. They were pinned back - now they are in the normal flopped position. | |
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Tigg
Posts:549


 | | 09/15/2007 5:12 PM |
Alert | That's great to hear! Surely she'll eat more as she gets a better grasp of how to eat.
Some dogs just don't gobble up their food like it's going to disappear on them. Kuma rarely scarfs down her food. It can take her forever to eat a meal sometimes (and doing the whole limited time to eat or it gets picked up thing doesn't speed her up any, just lessens the amount that she eats). She certainly knows how to eat, but she just isn't a speed-eater. She takes the time to taste her food. | | | |
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njparks
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 | | 09/15/2007 10:17 PM |
Alert | | Sounds like she is coming around and in the best place she could be. Not all people understand dogs...in fact, many should get the stuffed kind...the ones that sit on the back of the couch and don't do anything...shed, chew or be a dog! | | Nancy | |
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