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shertex
Posts:1040
 | | 07/25/2007 6:50 PM |
 Alert | | Okay, I am trying to give my friend all the bad info on these things. I am trying to get her to cut down from her usual 9 or so a day!!! Plus, she does not drink water. Is there flavored seltzer water or something for the fizz that she claims she has to have? She is also feeling dizzy and tired!I had her check her blood pressure and it is fine!!! <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/ermm.gif' height='20' width='20' border='0' title='Errmmm...' align='absmiddle'> | |
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| | twostep23
Posts:1712
| | 07/25/2007 6:52 PM |
Alert | | No much help here since I could probably give your friend a run for her money. | |
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| | MI_Mickey
Posts:699
| | 07/25/2007 7:54 PM |
Alert | | Hey Shertex! There are flavored "sparkling" waters but I couldn't give you a brand name off the top of my head. I myself am also a big diet soda drinker but I have cut WAY down to about 3-4 a day. She can also try mixing some diet cranberry juice and water or any kind of juice if she doesn't like cranberry. It gives it some flavor and it's not full strngth juice. I know how hard it is to cut down on the soda and drink more water, but you have to, especially out here! Maybe she's getting dehydrated? | |
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| | shertex
Posts:1040
| | 07/25/2007 8:46 PM |
Alert | | Thanks, that is what someone told her. I just cannot imagin 9 sodas a day. GAG She works hard and not drinking water...I need ammo to get her off them. Thanks everyone!!!! Keep it coming. | |
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| | reina
Posts:283
| | 07/25/2007 8:51 PM |
Alert | | I love sparkling water with sugar free Torani Syrup. My favorite is sparkling water, sugar free raspberry syrup, and grapefruit juice. | | | |
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| | MI_Mickey
Posts:699
| | 07/25/2007 9:14 PM |
Alert | | hmmm I may have to give that a whirl! Sounds yummy. | |
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|  | reina
Posts:283
| | 07/25/2007 9:17 PM |
Alert | | Add a little whipped cream, and it is heaven. (But then it really defeats the diet soda replacement) | | | |
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| | MI_Mickey
Posts:699
| | 07/25/2007 9:23 PM |
Alert | | True. I switched to diet years ago and now regular soda is to sweet for me and I used to be a HEAVY Mountain Dew drinker (back when it was still in glass bottles). I sure miss soda in glass bottles! | |
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| | reina
Posts:283
| | 07/25/2007 9:30 PM |
Alert | I agree, regular sodas are too sweet. I drink those darn Diet Pepsi Jazz sodas now - but I limit to one a day. I think they are pretty sweet though - and they are diet!
What I like about the Torani syrups is that you can add as much or as little as you want. I used to used the regular ones all the time to make Italian Sodas, but now I only use the sugar free ones. The only juice I use is the grapefruit too - since it isn't real sweet.
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| | Fritzydoodle
Posts:1023
| | 07/25/2007 10:50 PM |
Alert | OK All - I'll get on my soapbox for the moment. I went through this in 2001. My docs were testing me for a variety of diseases including multiple sclerosis, lupis, chronic fatigue etc because of the symptoms I suffered each day. It was all I could do to get out of bed each day, let alone function.
Diet soda is BAD for you for several reasons. Not only does the caffeine cause problems, but so does the carbonated water. Any carbonated beverage could cause water retention and increase blood pressure because of the sodium content. This goes for the sparkling waters too. Read the labels. Some are low sodium but not all.
Now for the biggie - the use of aspartame (Nutrasweet brand sweetner) and phenylalanine. Phenylalanine is an amino acid - one of many that you need in your diet to be healthy. It naturally occurs in protein - ie MEAT. Because your body thinks it is ingesting a protein - it makes you crave carbs to the exclusion of proteins. And not just any carbs - the bad carbs that cause weight gain and slow your metabolism. Bear in mind, you are not ingesting protein - you are drinking a diet soda. Or in some cases, a regular beverage that uses Nutrasweet for sweetner. Yes, that Chrystal Light uses Nutrasweet. So does most chewing gum and even many over the counter medicines. Take a daily dose of Metamucil - read the label - it contains aspartame!
Aspartame was developed by Monsanto as an ant poison. It was after the chemists found the sweetning characteristics that it was cross marketed as an artificial sweetner. But it is still poison! Aspartame remains in the human body, stored in the adipose (FAT) tissue. Because it is stored in your fat, it takes time to get it out of your system. Plus, the toxicity is accumulative. The more you consume, the more is stored in your system.
The one scary fact - aspartame products break down into various compounds when heated. I know, you're thinking "I don't boil my soda so this doesn't apply to me" And you are wrong. Think about this... soda is stored in an unrefrigerated warehouse, delivered to the grocery stores in unrefrigerated trucks. You buy it and put it in the trunk of your car to take it home. Then you refrigerate it. Take a few cans to work - where they get warm again... then back in the fridge... sit on your desk for a while... You get the point. There is a cycle of warm/cold/warm/cold.
This is an excerpt from the website www.sweetpoison.com
The structure of aspartame seems simple, but what a complicated structure aspartame really is. Two isolated amino acids in aspartame are fused together by its third component, deadly methanol. In this structure, methanol bonds the two amino acids together, but when released at a mere 86 degrees Fahrenheit, the methanol becomes a poisonous free radical.
Methanol breaks down into formic acid and formaldehyde, embalming fluid. Methanol is a dangerous neurotoxin, a known carcinogen, causes retinal damage in the eye, interferes with DNA replication, and causes birth defects.
Aspartic acid makes up forty percent of the structure of aspartame. Under excess conditions, the structure of aspartic acid can cause endocrine (hormone) disorders and vision problems. Aspartic acid is a neuroexicter, which means its structure affects the central nervous system. Hyperactivity is stimulated by aspartic acid, so this structure is not good for ADD/ADHD conditions and should be avoided during pregnancy.
Adverse reactions to aspartic acid are: headaches/migraines, nausea, abdominal pain, fatigue, sleep disorders, vision problems, anxiety attacks, depression, and asthma/chest tightness. The second isolated amino acid in aspartame's chemical structure is phenylalanine, fifty percent of aspartame's 3-D structure. Too much phenylalanine causes seizures, elevated blood plasma, is dangerous for pregnancy causing retardation, PMS caused by phenylalanine's blockage of serotonin, insomnia, and severe mood swings.
The person who came up with my toxicity was a naturepathic physician. She was also a microscopist. She would draw a finger prick sample of blood. We'd sit in her office with her in front of the microscope and me in front of a monitor and she would 'read' my blood. I went in very skeptical. So skeptical I didn't tell her my truthful medical history the first appointment. I flat out lied. And she was right on the money with what she was telling me about my health. Then she said something was puzzling her. She could see something weird in the blood plasma. A sugar like substance - but not sugar. THEN we started talking. It came out I drank at least a six pack or more each day of diet Dr. Pepper. That's when it clicked - the aspartame byproducts was what she was seeing. That was the day I quit consuming anything containing aspartame.
Do yourself a favor - do a google search: aspartame toxicity danger or aspartame phenylalanine. Spend some time reading. It could save your life. Literally. It took about 3 months for the mental fog to lift and about 6 months for the fatigue and other symptoms to receed. It's been since Sept 1, 2001. I still have some symptoms - the joint pains and arthritis symptoms. I say symptoms - the joint swelling and pain. But on xray - I don't have arthritis. But I am a 1000 percent better than I was.
Start with www.sweetpoison.com then www.aspartamekills.com
OK, I'll agree the sites are trying to sell you something but check out the cross information available. They may be a little radical - but methanol is still methanol and it will kill you.
read www.aspartame.net with an open mind - the company that runs the website manufactures aspartame!
I'm cross posting this on both the fatigue and diet soda threads. If you have any questions - ask away. But take the 60 day no-aspartame test. What do you have to lose?
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| | shertex
Posts:1040
| | 07/26/2007 6:15 AM |
Alert | | Wow, she needs to read this! THANKS. | |
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| | reina
Posts:283
| | 07/26/2007 7:30 AM |
Alert | | Fritzydoodle, I am actually sending all this information to my best friend in CA. She is 30. Her doc just started running tests for MS, lupus, RA, etc. Very interesting. | | | |
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| | "JustJodi"
Posts:619
| | 07/26/2007 7:42 AM |
Alert | | WOW I am 30 and I feel 85, my feet hurt so bad!! I used to drink about 9 cans a day too, I am trying right now to slow down and this has help me make that decision!! | |
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| | MommaToni
Posts:1045
| | 07/26/2007 9:49 AM |
Alert | Good for you Fritzdoodle.... more people need to know! Soda is so bad for you. If anything add some bubbles to you juice (100% juice not the nasty stuff)
Water, water, water.... nothing better. You're body needs it to flush out all the other stuff you put into your body. | |
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| | Sinbad
Posts:3053
| | 07/26/2007 9:56 AM |
Alert | | Diets soda's are Bad ..M-Kay!!! | |
Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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| | MaricopaTrainer
Posts:128
| | 07/26/2007 11:49 AM |
Alert | Soda is just terrible for you. And Fritzy gave some great info. It is likely your friend is experiencing a number of effects from coming off as well as drinking it in the first place. Firstly she IS going to be tired because she is not consuming high amounts of caffeine. The additives may also aggravate sugar issues. So it may be a good time to get her sugar checked. She may experience a detox like effect as there are less and less chemicals in her body. Drinking that much soda could have effects on adrenal function as well. She is definitely going to experience a period of detox.
She is going to HAVE to drink water. The more she drinks it the more her body will crave it and it will help to release the toxins in her body. She will have to come off the soda slowly or it is likely she will get very bad headaches as well.
I could honestly write a book on why soda is bad for you as well as artificial sweeteners but for now here's a quick run down.
A regular can of soda has about 10 teaspoons of sugar, 150 calories, 30 to 55 mg of caffeine, and is loaded with artificial food colors and sulphites.
There are NO safe sugar free substitutes with the exception of stevia a natural herb. Since Fritzy brought up aspartame I will also bring up it's close cousin Acesulfame K. I will also address Splenda aka sucralose.
Acesulfame Potassium (K) was approved for use by the FDA as a safe artificial sweetener in July, l988. It is a derivative of acetoacetic acid. Unfortunately, several potential problems associated with the use of acesulfame have been raised. They are based largely on animal studies since testing on humans remains limited. The findings showed the following:
Acesulfame K stimulates insulin secretion in a dose dependent fashion thereby possibly aggravating reactive hypoglycemia ("low blood sugar attacks").
Acesulfame K apparently produced lung tumors, breast tumors, rare types of tumors of other organs (such as the thymus gland), several forms of leukemia and chronic respiratory disease in several rodent studies, even when less than maximum doses were given. According to the Center for Science in the Public Interest, it was petitioned on August 29, l988 for a stay of approval by the FDA because of "significant doubt" about its safety.
Splenda is the trade name for sucralose. Johnson & Johnson bought the rights in 1998 to sell sucralose in the United States as Splenda. Its basic characteristics are:
* Its taste is nearly identical to sugar because it's made from sugar
* Its "trademark" inability to break down in processing or in storage
But Splenda is potentially harmful because it contains chlorine, which is a carcinogen. The Splenda marketers insist the chlorine is chemically "bound" so it cannot be "released" in the body during digestion. I question that, and wonder if this artificial chemical can safely pass through the human body. Wait until you discover what chlorine can do to the body. Then, you decide if you want to ingest this chemical.
Splenda (sucralose) is created in the lab, using a complex process involving dozens of chemicals you and I can barely pronounce - let alone consume. Basically, the chemists force chlorine into an unnatural chemical bond with a sugar molecule, resulting in a sweeter product, but at a price: a huge amount of artificial chemicals must be added to keep sucralose from digesting in our bodies. These toxic substances prevent (hopefully) the dangerous chlorine molecules from detaching from the sugar molecule inside the digestive system, which would be a carcinogenic hazard.
To illustrate the alarming "chemical soup" required to create sucralose, I have listed here the actual process for producing this sweetener. I highlighted the chemicals in bold type for emphasis.
According to the Splenda International Patent A23L001-236 and PEP Review #90-1-4 (July 1991), sucralose is synthesized by this five-step process:
1. sucrose is tritylated with trityl chloride in the presence of dimethylformamide and 4-methylmorpholine and the tritylated sucrose is then acetylated with acetic anhydride,
2. the resulting TRISPA (6,1',6'-tri-O-trityl-penta-O-acetylsucrose) is chlorinated with hydrogen chloride in the presence of toluene,
3. the resulting 4-PAS (sucrose 2,3,4,3',4'-pentaacetate) is heated in the presence of methyl isobutyl ketone and acetic acid,
4. the resulting 6-PAS (sucrose 2,3,6,3',4'-pentaacetate) is chlorinated with thionyl chloride in the presence of toluene and benzyltriethylammonium chloride, and
5. the resulting TOSPA (sucralose pentaacetate) is treated with methanol (wood alcohol, a poison) in the presence of sodium methoxide to produce sucralose.
The Splenda marketers stress that sucralose is "made from sugar but is derived from this sugar through a process that selectively substitutes three atoms of chlorine for three hydrogen-oxygen groups on the sucrose molecule." While this is true, it is a deceptively simple description, implying that sucralose is just a benign sugar with a touch of chlorine, and thereby, safe for consumption. According to research on the hydrolysis of sugars, just the process of inserting chlorine into the sugar molecule (hydrolysis means breaking it into smaller molecules) ultimately allows these chemicals to penetrate the intestinal wall.
So sucralose becomes a "low-calorie" sugar with a complicated process that results in Splenda's chemical formula: 1,6-dichloro-1, 6-dideoxy-BETA-D-fructofuranosyl-4-chloro-4-deoxy-alpha-D-galactopyranoside.
This is Splenda. They say it is a perfectly safe sugar molecule.
Sucralose is patented as a manmade "chlorinated sucrose sweetener" and it is registered as "chlorinated sucrose." Chlorinated sucrose is not found anywhere in nature, like real sugar (sucrose) that is extracted from sugar cane and sugar beets. Chlorinated sucrose exists because of man.
The FDA states in their Final Report on Splenda that sucralose is "produced at an approximate purity of ninety-eight percent." The other two percent does not have to be reported to the FDA, nor listed as added ingredients. So what's in the other two percent? The chemicals used to synthesize sucralose in the five-step process:
1. Acetone
2. Acetic acid
3. Acetyl alcohol
4. Acetic anhydride
5. Ammonium chloride
6. Benzene
7. Chlorinated sulfates
8. Ethyl alcohol
9. Isobutyl ketones
10. Formaldehyde
11. Hydrogen chloride
12. Lithium chloride
13. Methanol
14. Sodium methoxide
15. Sulfuryl chloride
16. Trityl chloride
17. Toluene
18. Thionyl chloride | | | |
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| | alanf
Posts:1582
| | 07/26/2007 11:56 AM |
Alert | | Okay, cool. Glad it's not more than 2% or I'd have to cut back on my Diet Sodas. | | | |
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| | Sinbad
Posts:3053
| | 07/26/2007 11:58 AM |
Alert | Boy do they get away with putting crap in our food sources.....
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Just doing it one day at a time. Change is good and it should be looked upon as an improvment! not a problem.
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| | Fritzydoodle
Posts:1023
| | 07/26/2007 11:58 AM |
Alert | | Period of detox? It is pure HELL. I can't imagine it could be any worse for a heroin addict. You will experience physical symptoms of withdrawl. And don't try to cut back. It's an all or nothing elimination. | |
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| | MaricopaTrainer
Posts:128
| | 07/26/2007 12:09 PM |
Alert | <div class='NTForums_Quote'>Posted By Sinbad on 07/26/2007 11:58 AM
Boy do they get away with putting crap in our food sources.....
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The sooner people start to realize that the FDA is about putting money in their pockets and not protecting the people the better. It is best to do your own research. I give tons of research to my clients for this simple reason. A lot of people just don't realize. You would be shocked and sickened at everything that is put into our foods.
Again, notice a trend in the amount of prescription meds yet there are more illnesses then ever? There is a big link. Ok off my soapbox... <img src='http://www.85239.com/desktopmodules/ntforums/images/emoticons/whistling.gif' height='20' width='20' title='Whistling' align='absmiddle'> | | | |
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