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CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
 | | 08/06/2007 7:17 PM |
 Alert | | Hello fellow Copa internet users.. My friend needs some help getting into her child's myspace account that was created falsely and without her knowlege. How can she pull up info on an account that was just recently closed? Any info would help. Thanks. | |
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
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| | MI_Mickey
Posts:699
| | 08/06/2007 7:22 PM |
Alert | | Not sure if she can.. maybe email Tom (you know, the guy that's EVERYBODY's friend!) LOL | |
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| | CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
| | 08/06/2007 7:24 PM |
Alert | | yeah. I think she is trying that. Thanks anyways. | |
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
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| | thiskiss
Posts:334
| | 08/06/2007 7:26 PM |
Alert | | Have them send the password to the email account it was created with. I think there is a forgot password button. Unless you don't know the email address, then I guess this wouldn't help. | | | |
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| | CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
| | 08/06/2007 7:30 PM |
Alert | | she tried that too, but it looks as if the acct was closed. She just wanted to see who was writing to her child, again her CHILD! I am trying to help her as she is a little ticked, mad, sad, frustrated, etc as any other parent would be who has had to deal with this. | |
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
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| | Marzmachado
Posts:7
| | 08/06/2007 7:39 PM |
Alert | | Yes contact myspace directly let them know what is going on and they will help you. | | | |
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|  | cptpizza
Posts:75
| | 08/06/2007 7:41 PM |
Alert | I have two words that describe the only way I have ever heard of myspace releasing account information to someone other than the account holder:
Court Order
Thats the only way I know they can do it...otherwise anyone can say they are the parent of a child on myspace.
If the child is writing on myspace on a computer your friend owns however, she may be able to legally install a key logging software to record keystrokes. Then she would just need to wait for the child to log in and the password would be there plain as day. There is software out there to do this. I would make sure its obtained from a reputable source, as if it isn't, she could be opening herself up to have her computer security compromised.
There is use for this software, but if it is installed on someone else's computer, you may be opening yourself up to legal issues. I am no expert on the topic by any means, so consulting a legal expert may be worth it in this case, if she wants to find out bad enough. | | | |
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| | CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
| | 08/06/2007 7:56 PM |
Alert | | I don't think she wants to take it to that extreme, but i will let her know. i think the good thing about it is she did find out at least the account was closed, so at least that is some comfort. Thanks for everyone's input. She also found some other things, so she will be having a long talk with her child tonight. | |
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
-Marilyn vos Savant | |
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| | YZRacer
Posts:1641
| | 08/07/2007 9:57 AM |
Alert | | is there a phone number on the contact page for myspace. i'm sure if it's a child, they will cooperate. | |
If you can't spot the loser, it might be you
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| | heat sprite
Posts:334
| | 08/07/2007 10:02 AM |
Alert | My friend had the same problem. You can contact them to close the account as the legal gardian, but it doesn't stop them from opening a new account later. My friend's daughter is probably up to her 10th account. They keep finding her opening another...  | |
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| | CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
| | 08/07/2007 10:09 AM |
Alert | | Well, I guess the child has done that as well. So now the child is loosing computer priviledges all together. As for a phone number to contact on myspace, no there isn't one, only an email to the admin dept. But, we will see. Hopefully her child will have learned a lesson. I guess my friend has learned one too. I even questioned my child last night if she has one. It just makes us think how much they are open to and dang, they are growing up fast! | |
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
-Marilyn vos Savant | |
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| | heat sprite
Posts:334
| | 08/07/2007 10:12 AM |
Alert | | My friend's daughter sets them up a school, at friend's houses and at the library as she doesn't have computer priviledges at home anymore either. Taking away home priv's won't solve the problem. Sorry for your friend. | |
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| | CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
| | 08/07/2007 10:22 AM |
Alert | | Setting them up at school?! Whaa... I can understand the access at a friend's house, or the library, but the school? I would hope not at the elementary level or even middle school. Jeez, that's all I needed to hear. I really hope the monitoring systems at my child's school is not allowing them access to myspace. She is only still in elementary! Again, just makes me think, dang, kids are growing up waaayyy too fast. | |
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
-Marilyn vos Savant | |
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| | heat sprite
Posts:334
| | 08/07/2007 10:39 AM |
Alert | | Schools tend to limit or block adult only sites and things of that nature. My Space is not an adults only site. I would definitely have her discuss this with the school to see if restrictions can be set for her user profile at school, but that won't stop her using a friend's access or login. This is a really big problem for your friend. As we discovered, there is not much in place to stop kids from using free sites without parental approval. Setting up email on hotmail and other free sites. Getting instant messaging accounts. Communication with your child can go a lot further than punishment. Also, she might try supervised use of some of these sites, to discourage sneaking around using them. | |
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| | MaricopaTrainer
Posts:128
| | 08/07/2007 11:13 AM |
Alert | Here are the specific instructions you need to deal with this:
Someone is pretending to be me - what do I do?
Solution:
In order to verify your identity, please send us a "salute":
* This means we will need an image of yourself holding a handwritten sign with the word "MySpace.com" and your Friend ID (your Friend ID number appears immediately after "friendID=" in the web address/URL when viewing your profile). We can then remove the profile that uses your identity without your permission.
* Please be sure to include the web address/URL to the profile in question when you send your salute.
* If the profile is an extremely obvious attempt to be cruel/false, you may not need to send a salute. Sending a salute will help expedite things, though!
Use this link to contact the appropriate people:
http://collect.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=misc.contactInput&primarySubject=2&secondarySubject=9 | | | |
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| | cptpizza
Posts:75
| | 08/07/2007 9:20 PM |
Alert | I can't comment on what Maricopa schools do specifically, but as someone who previously worked for a Phoenix school district IT department, I can offer some insight.
Typically most schools (and businesses for that matter) use some sort of filtering product. There are several out there, but a couple of the ones I know are: Websense, iPrism, Barracuda networks, among others.
Several years ago, through the school facilities board, the state purchased WebSense for all schools across the state. It was a 5 year subscription. It was not mandated that this be the product used, but many schools chose to use it since the state provided it, rather than spending additional taxpayer's dollars for a product that does a similar function. After the subscription expired, schools had the option to individually renew with Websense, or go with a different product.
Websense and others typically use the following methods for blocking or restricting access to the web.
1. Pre-Configured Categories-- Based on the level of filtering you want, there are things like Low, Medium and High security (examples only). The low might block things are typically blocked like Pornographic Sites only. The medium might block Pornographic Sites and Game sites. The High Might block Pornographic, Games, and Shopping sites. The filters are based off of the companies internal database of sites and the categories in which they have classified each site in the database. Typically this Database is updated nightly or weekly with new sites.
2. Keywords--just as it sounds, keyword filtering will block based on keywords. Sex, XXX, Porn are blocked that way. The catch to keyword filtering is that often it blocks if that appears anywhere in the page. For example, blocking the word 'ass' would typically block sites having to do with the Assassination of President Kennedy, which is obviously a topic that could be visited in school for history class.
3. Port/Application Blocking--Instant messaging programs, Peer-to-Peer programs, and others often use the same internet port for their software. For example, MSN Messenger program uses 1863 to send traffic in or out. Many of the filtering products integrate with major firewalls to prevent access to this type of material.
4. Custom filters--No filtering product is perfect. The internet is constantly changing and new sites are opening daily. Therefore, it is possible that some sites might be accessed despite the filtering product being properly configured. For this reason, they typically offer a custom filter option to allow you to specify the URL of a site that is not currently in the database. They also offer a means of removing the block on a site that is filtered.
The best way to deploy these filtering products is to use a multi-layered approach by implementing a combination of the above methods.
That being said, there must be written policies in place and action must be taken when these policies are violated in order for this to work. Administration must support the IT department in order for this to be successful. Otherwise, people will call requesting overrides of the filters, opening up these sites to children.
Ultimately, this is just one type of tool that can be used. There is no substitute for supervision. Even in schools, often, computer lab time is thought of as slacking time where some teachers let their kids play games or access the internet for reasons typically against the policies of the school/district. While it is hard to monitor 25-35 students at once, it is not impossible.
There are tools to help with supervision all. synchron EYES by SMART Technologies, NetSupport school, and Vision are all methods that allow remote viewing of multiple screens from the teacher console. Many of these products also provide means of locking or blanking the students screens in order to keep them on task while the teacher is demonstrating or giving instructions.
Kids are sneaky, I cannot tell you how many times I have had teachers contact me and tell me they suspect a student of misconduct on the PC and I confirm it with remote control. I have even had them call me on cell phones and walk toward the student to have them minimize the window until the teacher walks away and they bring it back up and continue to misuse the equipment.
Anyway, sorry for the long winded post, but I thought it would provide some insight to filtering and how the above situation could happen at school.
P.S. On the most restrictive setting, the product we used at the school I worked for DID block Myspace as part of the preconfigured category blocking. I believe it was under social/networking or something to that effect. | | | |
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| | CaliGurl~n~Copa
Posts:340
| | 08/07/2007 9:56 PM |
Alert | | Wow, thanks Cptpizza and Maricopatrainer. I really thought I wouldn't get too many hits on this question, but instead there is some very interesting info posted within this thread. I will definitely have her check this thread out and read for herself what other parents as well as what info is provided. Thanks everyone! | |
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