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jhallUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 7:02 AM Alert 

This global warming hype is nothing more than a way for the government to get more of our money....

 

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080515172437.aspx

Senators Warn Bill Could Spike Gas $1.50 to $5 a Gallon
Inhofe, Sessions blast massive costs of global warming legislation.

  By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
5/15/2008 5:44:34 PM


     Worried about gas prices hitting $4 a gallon and beyond? Imagine if they were $6, $7 or even $8 a gallon. Those levels are a certain possibility should Congress pass cap-and-trade legislation, which could face a vote in early June.

 

     Oil is trading at record levels, in excess of $120 a barrel. Leading Republican Sens. James Inhofe (Okla.) and Jeff Sessions (Ala.) both told the Business & Media Institute (BMI) energy prices would drastically increase if the Lieberman-Warner Climate Security Act (S. 2191) is signed into law.

 

    “The studies show it would be directly affected, would be a $1.50 a gallon, in addition to what it is today,” Inhofe, the ranking Republican on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, said to (BMI).

 

     Inhofe spoke at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on May 15 to introduce the “We Get It!” campaign – a program founded by evangelical Christians that question the merits of global warming alarmism. According to Inhofe, the bill will make it to the floor of the Senate on June 2.

 

     “So now I think we need to concentrate on what it will cost the American people,” he said during the press conference. “To try to put it in a perspective people understand, if we had ratified, according to the Wharton School of Economics, the Kyoto Treaty, back five years ago, it would have cost about – between $300 and $330 billion – that was the range they had. This bill that’s up today is $471 billion – far more than that. And the question is, what do you get for it?”

 

     Sessions, a member of the Senate’s Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, went a step further. He cited sources that suggest the increase could be as much as $5 a gallon.

 

     “[L]et me tell you what’s heading down the tracks,” Sessions said to BMI on May 14. “In a few weeks, we expect that the cap-and-trade legislation that’s been voted out of Sen. Barbara Boxer’s (D-Calif.) Environment and Public Works Committee will be on the floor and according to the Environmental Protection Agency it will increase gas prices by $1.50. The National Association of Manufacturers says it will increase it as much as $5 per gallon.”

 

     Sessions proposed that money should be spent on energy investment versus a regulatory bureaucracy to enforce the provisions of the Lieberman-Warner bill.

 

     “So instead of actually coming forward with any idea about what to do about rising prices, we’ll soon be voting on a bill that has already passed committee, has some Republican support, that would surge the price of energy, create a bureaucracy – and I just don’t think is the right thing to do,” Sessions said. “I’d rather spend our money in investing in the new the technologies, helping get nuclear power online, improving batteries, researching cellulosic ethanol. Let’s spend our money on that without creating cap-and-trade bureaucracies that have not worked in Europe.”

 

     According to the Energy Information Administration, the average price of a gallon of gas in Europe ranges from $8 to $9 a gallon.

 

     Gas prices have been one of the most reported news stories of the past several years. Reporters have repeatedly warned of prices approaching the levels Inhofe and Sessions warned about. However, journalists have consistently complained about oil company profits, not taxes, making gas prices higher.

 

     On NBC’s May 15 “Today,” host Matt Lauer interviewed ExxonMobil (NYSE:XOM) CEO Rex Tillerson. Lauer quizzed Tillerson on oil companies’ profit margins and higher gas prices, but Lauer didn’t ask Tillerson about the potential impact Lieberman-Warner would have on the price of gasoline.

 

     “Well, the problem we have right now, and fortunately we have several months before the election, to make sure the American people know that this is a supply problem that is causing the gas prices to go up,” Inhofe said to BMI. “You know the Democrats, right down party lines – they do not want to drill in ANWR, they do not want to drill offshore. They don’t want the tar sands. They don’t want more energy. And they don’t want refinery capacity.”

 

     The Senate defeated a measure to drill in ANWR on May 13. The vote, an amendment to another bill, was killed by a vote of 42-56, largely along party lines. Only one Democrat voted for the amendment, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), and five Republicans voting against it.

 

     Inhofe blamed Democratic policies going as far back as the Clinton administration.

 

     “The Democrats are the reason we have high prices at the pumps, and we’re not going to be able to alleviate that until we start producing again in America,” Inhofe added. “And I knew this was happening way back, well 10 years ago, when President Clinton vetoed the bill that would have allowed us to drill in ANWR. I said on the Senate floor that day 10 years ago that in 10 years we would regret this. It’s now 10 years later.”


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
Cactus RobUser is Offline

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05/16/2008 9:46 AM Alert 

Hopefully, the next 20 - 30 years, which will be much colder than normal, will shock the global warming advocates back to reality.  Just one problem though.  Mother Nature may have waited too long and the U.S. economy may not be able to recover.  If you'll wait a few years before you flame me, then you won't need to!       

jhallUser is Offline

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05/21/2008 10:35 AM Alert 
More tax payers punished...

http://www.nbc11.com/news/16349069/detail.html


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke
Cactus RobUser is Offline

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05/21/2008 12:24 PM Alert 

It's like a doctor killing his patient trying to cure a disease the patient doesn't have! 

It's hard to believe these folks are still able to continue their scam,  even though we are one year into a natural cycle of global cooling, which began last year (2007).  

Smokin AceUser is Offline

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05/28/2008 2:22 PM Alert 
Well said Cactus Rob. Nothing seems to amaze me these days when it comes to scams. So lets make everything cost more when they keep raising the tax since "it is the right thing to do". When will people learn to think for themselves rather then follow the crowd off the dead end cliff?..... No one looks into these things they just take who evers word for it.

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
Sedona GalUser is Offline

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05/29/2008 4:13 PM Alert 
Just one question, who paid for the gas President Bush used to fly to Phoenix to a private location for a few hours to support McCain when he wasn't wanted here in the first place?
With our gas prices the way they are and we are all suffering from paying at the gas tank, I say let our officials pay for their own gas. Also what was that with Kennedy leaving the hospital in that big gas guzzeling SUV???
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05/29/2008 6:51 PM Alert 

  

Climate Change: Czech President Vaclav Klaus warns that environmentalism is becoming a new totalitarianism. There is still a bear in the woods, but it's no longer the Russian bear. This time, it's a polar bear. READ MORE

www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx

Cactus RobUser is Offline

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05/29/2008 8:23 PM Alert 

Now that we're beginning to feel the pain and see first hand the disasterous effects of Al Gore and the Democratic Party's environmentalism, I wonder how many on this forum are still worried about George Bush and the Republican Party's Patriot Act taking away their personal rights and freedoms?  

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05/29/2008 9:34 PM Alert 
Posted By Sedona Gal on 05/29/2008 4:13 PM
Just one question, who paid for the gas President Bush used to fly to Phoenix to a private location for a few hours to support McCain when he wasn't wanted here in the first place?
With our gas prices the way they are and we are all suffering from paying at the gas tank, I say let our officials pay for their own gas. Also what was that with Kennedy leaving the hospital in that big gas guzzeling SUV???

 

By law, when any President travels for political purposes the bill is paid for by private funds (usually the political party). That is not to say that using Air force One is not a big advantage, just as it has been to all presidents ,Dem and Rep.
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05/29/2008 9:42 PM Alert 
Posted By Cactus Rob on 05/29/2008 8:23 PM

Now that we're beginning to feel the pain and see first hand the disastrous effects of Al Gore and the Democratic Party's environmentalism, I wonder how many on this forum are still worried about George Bush and the Republican Party's Patriot Act taking away their personal rights and freedoms?  

 

The left has, for 30 years, made it almost imposable to drill for oil in the US, build refineries, or build nuclear power plants. Now they have the gall to drag the oil co. executives to Washington so that liberal politicians, who helped create the problem, can be seen on TV grilling the oil men and demanding that they explain why oil prices are so high.The hypocrisy is amazing.
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05/30/2008 6:13 PM Alert 
Democrats, and probably a lot of Republicans don't understand business. The "windfall" profits Congress is talking about is really not all profit. Oil companies have huge investments to find places to drill and discover new oil fields. Congress doesn't understand and a lot of that money is a return on that investment, and a lot more of that "profit" goes back into research and development. Start taxing more of that, then there is less money for research, development, and maybe one day more refineries. Same thing with Drug companies and the windfall profits. They just don't understand business.

The biggest entity making money on gas is the government. Their margin is larger than the oil companies according to the information I have seen.

Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.

Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970
Smokin AceUser is Offline

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06/02/2008 9:45 AM Alert 

Where did you see that info? I would like to read up a bit more on it. Thanks


Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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06/02/2008 10:02 AM Alert 
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1140.html Oil company profits vs. Tax revenue. Very interesting chart.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/06/news/economy/oil_profits_tax/index.htm?postversion=2008050612 This article has 2 things about it. The money oil companies spend on Research and Development. The second one has to do with the windfall tax. Oil companies have about 10% profit, which is a little above the fortune 500 average. Google on the other hand has about 25% profit margin. I haven't heard one Senator call for a Google windfall tax.....

Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.

Reagan, Los Angeles Times, January 7, 1970
Smokin AceUser is Offline

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06/02/2008 10:27 AM Alert 
I agree with the google part. They are making money hand over fist and certainly keeping it to themselves. Thanks for the info.

Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ~Lord Acton
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