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NervannaUser is Offline

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05/07/2008 6:09 PM Alert 

Once again, our housing market woes are national news. Check this out:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/RealtyCheck/story?id=4798588&page=1

asugrlUser is Offline

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05/07/2008 10:18 PM Alert 
Ugh, articles like this one make me angry. It shows one side of the story, and generalizes at that. What about the people who bought a house with a fixed rate? Not everyone is in danger of losing their house, nor is everyone just stuck here, left behind, like the article implies. Furthermore, this story is basically a rip-off of the NY Times one; it's already been done. Find a new subject and learn how to write about more than one side.
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05/07/2008 10:35 PM Alert 
"Civic leaders are worried that Maricopa will have the reputation of a ghost town with tumble weeds blowing down Main Street. Thousands of people still live there and go to schools. But Maricopa's promise has been delayed, possibly by years."

they act like we are going to saddle up our horses and head on down to the saloon! they aren't saying anything new and i'm pretty sure from eveything i've read, that many many towns have haulted on growth b/c of this whole housing crisis. of course it's going to take years to recover from this recession and housing crisis, but they act like the lights are going out on maricopa tomorrow.

this time i want a smart president!
LeonPotterUser is Offline

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05/08/2008 2:19 AM Alert 

I think the article is accurate. It reports on the disappointment that many people have posted themselves on threads in this forum. I think "being built on mortgages" is a fair description. It's a general description, but a fair one. Does it mean Maricopa was the ONLY place? No, but it describes how Maricopa rose from the desert in a short period of time. Maricopa was among the fastest growing cities, given it's size and short history as a city.

Many people used mortgage via the builder's lender. Everythin fed on itself on the way up. Everything is now self deflating on the way down. This includes the feelings of many of the residents who live here.

Is everyone losing a home? Absolutley not. Is it the publicity the city necessarily wants? Probably not. But, the article did quote the mayor of why Maricopa is still a place to consider for "working,living,playing..."

The reasons the mayor describes that are available to current and possible future residents are the same reasons I came here in the first place. It wasn't for the possible explosion of property values, but for the simple life that Maricopa offered at a relatively low cost of living. Would I like to see the city have a movie theatre and other "extras" that article mentions that aren't here. Sure,I would. I have said that. In time, those things will happen.

For now, I am enjoying what Maricopa had when I first stumbled through town in Aug 2004 looking for that "perfect home" to raise my family;that included the building and the city that surrounds it. I am grateful to be part of the community and part of the changes that have come since I have been here.

The article may not mention everything, but I know what is available here. I plan to enjoy it.


My answer is "NO" to Q#5 and Q#1.

Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
NervannaUser is Offline

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05/08/2008 5:51 AM Alert 

I actually stayed up to watch Nightline to see what else it might say that wasn't in the written story. It was short, but interesting. What stood out in my mind was that they said one in every 10 houses in Maricopa is vacant, compared to one in every 93 houses in Arizona, or something like that. It said the entire state was hit hard, but Maricopa more so than in other areas.

I wonder how that matches up with the 133 houses this site reported as having sold here last month, because it seems like the numbers are going up for homes sold in recent months, although not to the level it was in boom time.

I am also curious about the whole issue of the city being built on mortgages. I wonder how many homeowners were pressured into taking bad loans by builders who pushed them with discount incentives on the price of the home for a "temporary loan" they all agreed ahead of time would need to be refinanced - and could be refinanced - before it went from being fixed for a couple of years into being an ARM. My builder most definitely pushed that kind of loan with its own lender and offered me a $90,000 discount on the sales price if I would buy through them rather than the lender I already had lined up.

Now, of course, they are balking at refinancing because the loan to value isn't necessarily there.

It's a crazy situation.

 

 

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05/08/2008 8:17 AM Alert 
Maybe the publicity will draw investors here first since we have the lowest prices?

Despite All My Rage I Am Still Just A Rat In A Cage
happyfaceUser is Offline

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05/08/2008 9:42 AM Alert 

Where is the PR team for Maricopa.  I'm the first to admit that moving here has been a disappointment, but I'm here for the long haul and want this town to make it.  However,  all I hear are the negatives.  Queen Creek which is also in Pinal County has also grown by leaps and bounds, and yet transportation to/from homes out in Johnson Ranches, for example, is a nightmare.  I only hear about how bad 347 is...and it is, but try commuting to/from some of the communities off of HUNT HWY.  Why isn't our city government "Talkin' Up" our town.  Why aren't they countering the negative publicity that has been generated against our city lately. Are they sleeping?    Have they been too busy wasting time talking about an "airport" to get real and start really building a town people want to come to.......Talk - up the benefits, talk up the potential. 

Talk to the investors/developers  holding progress at bay with their exorbitant price gouging rents that prevent new buisness from coming here and succeeding.    HEY CITY FOLKS....YOU NEED TO START READING THESE COMMENTS AND TAKING SOME ACTION....MAYOR ANDERSON..YOUR ESPONSE TO NIGHTLINE WAS LAME.  HOW ABOUT SOME PASSION HERE.    EMPHASIZE THE POSITIVE!

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05/09/2008 8:53 AM Alert 

Nothing exceeds like excess!


Some people will do anything to get elected!


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JasonUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 10:01 AM Alert 
Posted By LeonPotter on 05/08/2008 2:19 AM

I think the article is accurate.

Really? It's written in a sensationalistic tone that paints Maricopa as this bleak town that's on the verge of becoming a ghost town, when in fact we are still a growing city. Parts like these:

 

has become a bedroom community for Phoenix, a 40-minute drive northeast across the desert.


It's not a 40 minute drive.

 

Built on low-interest, interest-only and adjustable-rate mortgages, Maricopa inflated along with the real estate market across the country.

This sentence makes it sound like a majority of the homes were bought this way. They offer no fact or basis to support that assumption though.

 

But on a recent day she showed a home, which originally sold for $225,000, that had been re-possessed by the bank. After reducing the price to $105,000, she still had no offers and was preparing to put the house up for auction.

Here they show one example, which is probably the worst one that they could pick. I know that not all houses are selling for such a low price.

 

Civic leaders are worried that Maricopa will have the reputation of a ghost town with tumble weeds blowing down Main Street.

This is being fueled by one-sided sensationalistic articles and segments like this one.

 

I just don't see how you can say the article is accurate when it is so clearly sensationalistic.


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05/09/2008 10:13 AM Alert 
Posted By Jason on 05/09/2008 10:01 AM
Posted By LeonPotter on 05/08/2008 2:19 AM

 

has become a bedroom community for Phoenix, a 40-minute drive northeast across the desert.


It's not a 40 minute drive.

On a "lucky day" during rush hour it might be 40 mnutes.... on a "bad traffic day", it may be much longer than 40 minutes..... and there are few "alternative routes". Be realistic here, the drive in and out sucks, and now with gas prices it sucks even more!

 

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But on a recent day she showed a home, which originally sold for $225,000, that had been re-possessed by the bank. After reducing the price to $105,000, she still had no offers and was preparing to put the house up for auction.

Here they show one example, which is probably the worst one that they could pick. I know that not all houses are selling for such a low price

Check out the MLS for "comps", in any neighborhod in the 'Copa and this is not as far off the mark as you seem to think. Builders are selling their freshly built homes starting from the $90,000's (KB Homes). There are auctions in many of the neighborhoods(Hacienda builders in Alterra last weekend).  All these things have driven the prices down drastically. I know personally of a home bought brand new in 2006 for $210,000 that is currently listing for $100,000.......

 

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I am channeling my "inner cougar".....
LeonPotterUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 10:21 AM Alert 
Posted By Jason on 05/09/2008 10:01 AM
Posted By LeonPotter on 05/08/2008 2:19 AM

I think the article is accurate.

Really? It's written in a sensationalistic tone that paints Maricopa as this bleak town that's on the verge of becoming a ghost town, when in fact we are still a growing city. Parts like these:

 

has become a bedroom community for Phoenix, a 40-minute drive northeast across the desert.


It's not a 40 minute drive.

 

Built on low-interest, interest-only and adjustable-rate mortgages, Maricopa inflated along with the real estate market across the country.

This sentence makes it sound like a majority of the homes were bought this way. They offer no fact or basis to support that assumption though.

 

But on a recent day she showed a home, which originally sold for $225,000, that had been re-possessed by the bank. After reducing the price to $105,000, she still had no offers and was preparing to put the house up for auction.

Here they show one example, which is probably the worst one that they could pick. I know that not all houses are selling for such a low price.

 

Civic leaders are worried that Maricopa will have the reputation of a ghost town with tumble weeds blowing down Main Street.

This is being fueled by one-sided sensationalistic articles and segments like this one.

 

I just don't see how you can say the article is accurate when it is so clearly sensationalistic.

I said it because I could. It was my opinion Jason. I started off " I think" ... before I finished with "the article is accurate."

I also posted that Maricopa was the "perfect home" to raise my family. I'm sure many would disagree. But, that is my opinion in regards to my family. It was also one side and sensationalistic.

Yes, that article gave an example of a home that is in a foreclosure that wouldn't sell. But, it didn't say all the homes are that way nor did it say Maricopa is the ONLY place in the entire nation to have these issues.

So lay off the attack. Go find something else you can reference to death to back up that your right and everyone can't disagree.

Thanks.

 

AmyB1 - I like your post.

 Jason, I re read my original post. I suggest you did the same.


My answer is "NO" to Q#5 and Q#1.

Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
happyfaceUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 10:39 AM Alert 

Hey Leon....

I believe I was misundestood or the spirit of my comments was missed.   I paid $415,000 for a house in June 2006, now the same model, same upgrades , has never been lived is for sale for $210,000.....and if this were the only house on the blcok, I wouldn't be worried, but it is not...its about the 4th house (same model, etc etc)within a two block area that has sold or is for sale for about 200,000 less that I paid.  So the article is accurate, if selectively so.    However, what I was trying to bring attention to, and I obviously did not do so very successfully, is the fact that all the negative attention is unwarranted, and that our civic leaders should be doing something to accentuate the positive aspect of our community and strenuously object to negative, "sensationalist" press.    The need to get seriously proactive.

 That's it...that's all.  We're on the same page...just a matter of "expression" and semantics.

LeonPotterUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 10:53 AM Alert 
Posted By happyface on 05/09/2008 10:39 AM

Hey Leon....

I believe I was misundestood or the spirit of my comments was missed.   I paid $415,000 for a house in June 2006, now the same model, same upgrades , has never been lived is for sale for $210,000.....and if this were the only house on the blcok, I wouldn't be worried, but it is not...its about the 4th house (same model, etc etc)within a two block area that has sold or is for sale for about 200,000 less that I paid.  So the article is accurate, if selectively so.    However, what I was trying to bring attention to, and I obviously did not do so very successfully, is the fact that all the negative attention is unwarranted, and that our civic leaders should be doing something to accentuate the positive aspect of our community and strenuously object to negative, "sensationalist" press.    The need to get seriously proactive.

 That's it...that's all.  We're on the same page...just a matter of "expression" and semantics.

Thanks for that. I agree with your last sentence 100%.  I completely understand how one could feel about the article. It wasn't written through memories seen by rose colored glasses.

But, it touches a nerve when one's community is under the microscope in a negative light. This saddens me. That's why I posted what I did about why I am here.

I can see why one would want the civic leaders to step up the PR.  I know what this  City has to offer. I do my little part by sharing that with others I know. I love being here. The hardest thing for me is that my family live in CA. Yet, 3 years later I am still here, the lone pioneer.lol

I truly enjoy being here.


My answer is "NO" to Q#5 and Q#1.

Proverbs 22:7
The rich ruleth over the poor and the borrower is servant to the lender.
JasonUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 11:41 AM Alert 
Sorry, I just don't feel that it's accurate when it portrays us in the way it did.

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Cactus RobUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 11:49 AM Alert 
Just more of the same from the main stream media.
NervannaUser is Offline

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05/09/2008 8:18 PM Alert 

The actual show is online now:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4810252

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