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Subject: are gops and libs ethnocentric?
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rexUser is Offline

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03/09/2008 3:51 PM Alert 

If you're a Republican, do you see yourself differently if you do the same thing that a Democrat does?

Example, when a Republican enjoys hiking the Grand Canyon, he is seen as an outdoorsman. But when a Democrat enjoys hiking the Grand Canyon, he is seen as a tree hugging environmental liberal. Is this true?

Another example, when a Republican buys a Hummer, he is seen as successful. But when a Democrat buys a Hummer, he's a hypocrite.

When a Republican gives to charity, he is compassionate. But when a Democrat gives to charity, he's a bleeding heart liberal.

How about this- when a Democrat gets some strange from a white house intern, he's impeached. But when a Republican sends inappropriate homosexual emails to a mail page, it's ignored by the Republican leader of the house.

Are gops and libs ethnocentric? If someone from "our" side makes a mistake, it's not that big of a deal. But if someone from "their" side makes a mistake, we should crucify him. Is ethonocentrism consistent with "United we stand, divided we fall"?

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03/09/2008 6:19 PM Alert 
No, because political parties aren't ethnicities.
But, I understand where you're coming from.

"Everything for everyone and nothing for ourselves"
HiggsBosonUser is Offline

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03/09/2008 9:53 PM Alert 
There is plenty of hypocrisy to go around.

Thanks,
Higgs

Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
-- Ludwig Von Mises
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03/09/2008 10:22 PM Alert 

How about this- when a Democrat gets some strange from a white house intern, he's impeached. But when a Republican sends inappropriate homosexual emails to a mail page, it's ignored by the Republican leader of the house.

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Bill Clinton was not impeached for getting oral sex in the Oval Office. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. But your point is a good one, he was acquitted because of Democratic party loyalist who put loyalty to the party above justice. The Reps would have done the same.

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03/10/2008 10:09 AM Alert 

Aaah, the verbal streotypes of politics.  I am a nature hugger, human rights hugger, environmental hugger, domestic abuse hugger, animal abuse hugger.  That's right  -  I'm one of those tree huggging, bleeding liberal hearts!  Because I care and have compassion I am labeled as someone who is not realistic and am overly emotional.  Since when is "caring" a politically bad thing and thus, the above labels are used to scorn anyone with these concerns?

On the other hand, why is a conservative automatically considered to be a right wing "Jesus freak"?

Streotyping people's political views is over simplifying and makes us all more partisan and divided.  I think most of us share the same ideas than we do not.  It's time Congress and the Presidency tried to unite people rather than tear each other apart.

 

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03/10/2008 10:37 AM Alert 

A feel-good but Pollyannish idea. Americans, like all other people, have a broad spectrum of ideas and attitudes. From the very beginnings of history the people in all societies have had diverse ideas about government and society. In a democracy, those people with similar ideas form or join political parties. People with a different view form other parties. Political parties are not the cause of divisiveness ,they are a result of that divisiveness.

 A  politician (Obama for example) or any one else who claims that he will unite or bring the people together is being disingenuous. Will the very liberal Obama, for example, give up his strongly held views in order to come together with conservatives? Or will he expect conservatives to give up on their basic beliefs in order to join with him? Both scenarios are unrealistic.

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03/10/2008 12:55 PM Alert 
Posted By hastings1066 on 03/10/2008 10:37 AM

A feel-good but Pollyannish idea. Americans, like all other people, have a broad spectrum of ideas and attitudes. From the very beginnings of history the people in all societies have had diverse ideas about government and society. In a democracy, those people with similar ideas form or join political parties. People with a different view form other parties. Political parties are not the cause of divisiveness ,they are a result of that divisiveness.

 A  politician (Obama for example) or any one else who claims that he will unite or bring the people together is being disingenuous. Will the very liberal Obama, for example, give up his strongly held views in order to come together with conservatives? Or will he expect conservatives to give up on their basic beliefs in order to join with him? Both scenarios are unrealistic.

 

I find this one of the more amusing positions from Obama, that he is going to be the great unifier.  Can one of his supporters here please send us a link to some legislation he has submitted as Senator where he broke from the Democratic Party line and worked with Republicans on some major legislation.

 

It is also a little ironic that this is exactly what has got McCain in hot water with some conservatives in the past, his willingness to work with Democrats and go against the GOP party line on key issues like immigration, health care, campaign finance, etc.  Looking at the actual records of both McCain and Obama (not campaign rhetoric) who is more likely to find a compromise on key political issues and truly “reach across the aisle” as the politicians love to say.

 

thanks,

Higgs


Liberalism and capitalism address themselves to the cool, well-balanced mind. They proceed by strict logic, eliminating any appeal to the emotions. Socialism, on the contrary, works on the emotions, tries to violate logical considerations by rousing a sense of personal interest and to stifle the voice of reason by awakening primitive instincts.
-- Ludwig Von Mises
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