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Subject: Blu Ray just won the format war
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azsouthendzoneUser is Offline

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01/04/2008 2:51 PM Alert 
Warner Bros announced they are dropping HD DVD. This is basically the end of the format war. It is now safe to buy a Blu Ray player and enjoy high def glory. I own both but I'm happy I only paid $99 for my HD DVD player.
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01/04/2008 2:53 PM Alert 
NICE! That's good to know! Love it. We'll see how long it takes for them to come out with something new, more things to buy...
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01/04/2008 9:13 PM Alert 
If you are in to owning the titles in a library that degrade over time, DVD's are kewl. But the future medium will be purely electronic, you won't store them, you will rent the use of them through a subscription service. Why own 1000 movies that collect dust, when you can rent 1,000,000. Downloaded movies are the future, and its right around the corner!

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01/05/2008 6:27 AM Alert 
yeah everyone has a broadband connection and wants to wait 3 or more hours to download a movie plus watch it on their PC *rolls eyes* bluray is the future for at least 20 yrs, then digital distribution will take off. time for HDDVD to just die, and please take MS with them........

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01/05/2008 4:47 PM Alert 
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01/05/2008 4:47 PM Alert 
Posted By kharless on 01/04/2008 9:13 PM
If you are in to owning the titles in a library that degrade over time, DVD's are kewl. But the future medium will be purely electronic, you won't store them, you will rent the use of them through a subscription service. Why own 1000 movies that collect dust, when you can rent 1,000,000. Downloaded movies are the future, and its right around the corner!

DRM.

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01/05/2008 5:26 PM Alert 
Yep, streaming will work really well with the kids in the back seat on long trips... As Jason said, DRM is going to kill all that.. Seems at least the music industry is opening its eyes a bit, by releasing tracks without any DRM (see Apple's iTunes Plus, and Amazon's new service (dont recall the name at the moment..).. I don't see movie studios going without DRM anytime soon though.
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01/07/2008 9:44 PM Alert 
There goes the neighborhood...

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01/07/2008 9:48 PM Alert 
Or maybe not

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01/07/2008 10:11 PM Alert 
I am hoping the investment in a PS3 was well worth it.
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01/07/2008 11:31 PM Alert 
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01/07/2008 11:31 PM Alert 
Posted By *rikimaru* on 01/05/2008 6:27 AM
yeah everyone has a broadband connection and wants to wait 3 or more hours to download a movie plus watch it on their PC *rolls eyes* bluray is the future for at least 20 yrs, then digital distribution will take off. time for HDDVD to just die, and please take MS with them........


If you invested the money in getting into HD, I would assume that you also have a broadband connection. You don't have to wait 3 hours for a movie to download. You can rent HD movies from the Xbox Live marketplace and watch them on your TV (not just on your PC).

Digital distribution will take off when there are more devices to get you HD content to your TV and when a company steps forward and invests a legitimate amount of $$$ in the venture.

Posted By garion on 01/05/2008 5:26 PM
Yep, streaming will work really well with the kids in the back seat on long trips... As Jason said, DRM is going to kill all that.. Seems at least the music industry is opening its eyes a bit, by releasing tracks without any DRM (see Apple's iTunes Plus, and Amazon's new service (dont recall the name at the moment..).. I don't see movie studios going without DRM anytime soon though.


You're really going to look for watching HD movies on those tiny portable screens? On a long road trip is the LAST place that I would expect people to want to try taking advantage of HD content.
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01/08/2008 11:01 AM Alert 
Posted By brakers on 01/07/2008 11:31 PM
Posted By *rikimaru* on 01/05/2008 6:27 AM
yeah everyone has a broadband connection and wants to wait 3 or more hours to download a movie plus watch it on their PC *rolls eyes* bluray is the future for at least 20 yrs, then digital distribution will take off. time for HDDVD to just die, and please take MS with them........

If you invested the money in getting into HD, I would assume that you also have a broadband connection. You don't have to wait 3 hours for a movie to download. You can rent HD movies from the Xbox Live marketplace and watch them on your TV (not just on your PC).
Digital distribution will take off when there are more devices to get you HD content to your TV and when a company steps forward and invests a legitimate amount of $$$ in the venture.


I think rikimaru is referring to the size of Blu-ray or HD DVD downloads. Sure you can get just a movie in far less than 3 hours with broadband, but the 25-50 GB of movie+extra features on a disc won't come down nearly as fast.

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01/08/2008 2:30 PM Alert 
VHS forever.........

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01/08/2008 3:00 PM Alert 
Beta for the Win!!!!!!!!


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01/08/2008 4:08 PM Alert 
What is DRM? Should I really go Blu ray? When is the PS3 going to drop in price?


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01/09/2008 12:16 AM Alert 
DRM is Digital Rights Management. It is a way for the owner of the copyright to enforce where, when and how you watch/listen to their content. See, when you bought a VHS movie or a music CD, you owned that disc and all the content on it. You have the legal right to make a backup copy, you could mix the music how you wanted and if your disc was damaged, you could burn a fresh copy from the MP3s on your hard drive. With DRM, that is often restricted or blocked. In the case of DVD, HD DVD and Blu-ray, the movie is actually encrypted on the disc, and decrypted on the fly by the player as you watch.

No problem you say, there are plenty of programs out there to circumvent that. The problem comes in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). It prohibits breaking that encryption or circumventing it in any manner, for almost any purpose. No more backup copies, no copying DVDs to your iPod Video (legally), etc. It gets worse with movie downloads. These have far more restrictive DRM: You <i>cannot</i> put the movie on a different device, such as an iPod or go from an iTunes movie download to your DVD player. And actually, in some cases, you cannot even make a backup copy, should your hard drive crash.

So, here's a scenario: You buy a movie from Amazon's online service, watch it and then save it for later. Then you want to watch a movie from Netflix's online service, but it won't play. Netflix suggests you reset your Windows Media Player (that's the delivery mechanism for Netflix's online movies) license store and the Netflix movie plays. However, months later when you try to play the movie from Amazon, it says that you aren't licensed to play that movie. You try to contact Amazon, but find out they quit providing that service. So, now if you want to watch it, you've got to pay for it again, somewhere else. Never mind the fact that you can't bring it with you on your road trip for the kids to watch in the car. Never mind that you can't watch it on your iPod at the gym.

So, far from DVD movies, where you could bring them on trips, make a backup and put it on your iPod (albiet illegal), DRM can and does lock down movies so far that you can only watch them on the original computer you downloaded them to. It moves one step closer towards the studio's and label's holy grail: you purchasing a copy of the content for each device you intend to use it on. One for your car, one for your computer, one for your iPod, one for the home theater and on, and on and on.

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01/09/2008 3:48 PM Alert 
I'm feeling ill. It's bad enough I have to figure out how to watch TV on our 5 "old" TVs next year.


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01/10/2008 2:29 AM Alert 
Why can't they just make one unit! Keep it simple!
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01/10/2008 9:19 AM Alert 
editing my post...someone already covered the DMCA...i should really read the whole thread before i post.

as i would have said back when EQ was still popular...

/ru DMCA

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